Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[DeeTillEhDeh]

Did I hear "Although it is guidance, please don’t think it is optional" correctly there? [emoji38]

The announcement on hospitality was all over the place - is it guidance or is the law?

When is it from?

As about as clear as fucking mud.

[Elixir]

10 minutes ago, Caledonian1 said:

Jose Marinho

[Glennie]

2 minutes ago, Detournement said:

Vaccine Passports were tinfoil, winter restrictions this year were tinfoil, not posting an a cringe photo of someone smoking a cigar was tinfoil.

Are you not slightly suspicious as to why there is zero talk about any timescale for today's new English restrictions ending?

first lockdown was a conspiracy theory

surveillance app was a conspiracy theory

folk would never go along wi it mind

[PWL]

6 minutes ago, philpy said:

Still not great for the anxiety, this carry on. Works Xmas night out on Friday, paid my £40 but I'm now unsure of going, we are going to visit friends and family on Sunday, I'm thinking do I go to the meal, have a couple of pints and head home,  or do I take the hit on the £40 and keep myself and everyone else safe??

Please don't be c***s when replying to this. There could be other people in the same boat on here, mental health is shite just now, and all this new stuff said today ain't helping. 

I'm very lucky in that the last 18 have had zero impact on my MH. On the flip side, my wife is a nurse who literally held the hands of patients as they passed away from covid so I'm a lot more cautious than a lot on this thread. I'm also probably more sympathetic to the position SG and WM govs find themselves in balancing wise. 

My view is retain the normality. Can't beat a meal and a few pints with pals. Most places are well set up nowadays with table service. Go and enjoy it. Then on the Sat and Sun before you see family do an LFT. 

Enjoy your Friday. 

 

 

[Benjamin_Nevis]

5 minutes ago, Detournement said:

Vaccine Passports were tinfoil, winter restrictions this year were tinfoil, not posting an a cringe photo of someone smoking a cigar was tinfoil.

Are you not slightly suspicious as to why there is zero talk about any timescale for today's new English restrictions ending?

 

1 minute ago, Glennie said:

first lockdown was a conspiracy theory

surveillance app was a conspiracy theory

folk would never go along wi it mind

Can you guys like, just merge your accounts into one single tedious, attention-seeking conspiracy nut? 

[DeeTillEhDeh]

I rather suspect that we might be called back to Parliament in the coming days when the quantum of money from the UK government becomes apparent. I felt that there was a will in the Scottish government to go further in tightening regulations on hospitality. If the Omicron surge is so severe that we should restrict our domestic socialising to just three households, it’s a hard message to sell that it’s ok to go on to see the ballet or the panto.
Alex Cole-HamiltonScottish Liberal Democrat leader
 
 

Listening to both him and Jackie Baillie it's clear the opposition aren't going to oppose any further restrictions.

[Detournement]

3 minutes ago, Snafu said:

Thought you'd be all over the news concerning The Human Rights Act being messed around with by Raab.

You don't half miss a lot of goings on for a conspiracy theorist.

I've lost interest in most politics.

We are fucked, don't get sick and have savings.

[Adam]

Still not great for the anxiety, this carry on. Works Xmas night out on Friday, paid my £40 but I'm now unsure of going, we are going to visit friends and family on Sunday, I'm thinking do I go to the meal, have a couple of pints and head home,  or do I take the hit on the £40 and keep myself and everyone else safe??
Please don't be c***s when replying to this. There could be other people in the same boat on here, mental health is shite just now, and all this new stuff said today ain't helping. 

Definitely go for the night out. Am I f**k letting these bullshit advisory rules rule my free time ever again.

[Elixir]

Strong vibes from Sturgeon's birthday caird pish propaganda piece there.

[Billy Jean King]

So the SD, screens etc for retail and hospitality will be legally binding from Friday. Guidance needed ASAP

[RiffRaff]

1 hour ago, Bob Mahelp said:

A PCR test before travelling back to the UK, and another one 2 days after arriving plus self-isolating are still necessary though, as I understand it ? 

That's the killer for airlines and the travel industry, not the fact that people arriving from Lesotho and Malawi have to quarantine. 

I have just come back from Jamaica,  a lateral flow test 48 hours before you fly home and a PCR test within two days of arriving in the UK. We got ours done at the airport when we arrived and got the all clear the next day.

Something for the PTTGOYN thread but no great hassle.

[Aidan]

Still not great for the anxiety, this carry on. Works Xmas night out on Friday, paid my £40 but I'm now unsure of going, we are going to visit friends and family on Sunday, I'm thinking do I go to the meal, have a couple of pints and head home,  or do I take the hit on the £40 and keep myself and everyone else safe??
Please don't be c***s when replying to this. There could be other people in the same boat on here, mental health is shite just now, and all this new stuff said today ain't helping. 

Go oot, do a test before visiting the family on the Sunday.

[vikingTON]

2 hours ago, scottsdad said:

2 hours ago, scottsdad said:

 

The issue, I suspect, is that if they give even an inch here the EIS and the likes will spend the festive break screaming all over the radios that schools should stay shut in January. They don't want to set a precedent.

 

If the Big Scary Problem is a shan variant spreading among poorly protected people in indoor spaces, then schools should absolutely be closed. Children are barely vaccinated at all yet - it's time for them to bite the bullet on that. 

If schools can have a magical force-field set up around them then there is clearly zero case for telling triple vaccinated adults what to do though. 

[DeeTillEhDeh]

So the SD, screens etc for retail and hospitality will be legally binding from Friday. Guidance needed ASAP

That's going to be problematic for some venues. I can imagine there will be further cancellations of Christmas bookings not by the customers, but by venues themselves who will find it difficult to comply.

[sparky88]

23 minutes ago, PWL said:

I'm very lucky in that the last 18 have had zero impact on my MH. On the flip side, my wife is a nurse who literally held the hands of patients as they passed away from covid so I'm a lot more cautious than a lot on this thread. 

 

Even if my loved one was a nurse I'd still think restrictions were ridiculous  because anything short of a full lockdown doesn't work. Therefore we might as well keep businesses open. 

[DeeTillEhDeh]

If the Big Scary Problem is a shan variant spreading among poorly protected people in indoor spaces, then schools should absolutely be closed. Children are barely vaccinated at all yet - it's time for them to bite the bullet on that. 
If schools can have a magical force-field set up around them then there is clearly zero case for telling triple vaccinated adults what to do though. 

They are absolutely shitting it regards schools because they know any closures will definitely mean no exams again this year.

What the morons don't realise is that if exams do proceed as planned then it could be an almighty bloodbath with there likely to be legal cases.

[Sergeant Wilson]

48 minutes ago, philpy said:

Still not great for the anxiety, this carry on. Works Xmas night out on Friday, paid my £40 but I'm now unsure of going, we are going to visit friends and family 

Please don't be c***s when replying to this. 

Strange choice for a work night out philps.

Sorry.

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

14 minutes ago, virginton said:

If the Big Scary Problem is a shan variant spreading among poorly protected people in indoor spaces, then schools should absolutely be closed. Children are barely vaccinated at all yet - it's time for them to bite the bullet on that. 

If schools can have a magical force-field set up around them then there is clearly zero case for telling triple vaccinated adults what to do though. 

Yet it would seem that the grand total number of covid vaccines given in schools to school pupils is 0. They are fucking idiots and should be roundly mocked. 

[Abdul_Latif]

57 minutes ago, Empty It said:

3 hours ago, Abdul_Latif said:

Shutting schools should not even be considered, other than in an absolute disaster scenario, and adults should suck that up.
 

Why should schools be so untouchable?

 Because education is one of the most important pillars of our society and removing the right to that (which can only truly be delivered in person), for the benefit of adults, is selfish in the extreme.

Edited December 14, 2021 by Abdul_Latif

[yoda]

Parking the impact on businesses to one side and looking at workers. It's pretty bad that they're doubling down on the "advising not legislating" approach to hospitality. There's going to be a lot of folk (predominantly those on minimum wage with "flexible" working hours) out of pocket, with no immediate or obvious way for them to cover that loss of income.