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20 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

I will fully admit to being seething as I read this, but Jenny Harries has been telling us all we should avoid "unneccessary socialising" whilst they look at "Omicron". 

What is wrong with these people? 

Welsh Health Minister as well.

Psychotic people.

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24 minutes ago, oaksoft said:

 

Make no mistake. If people had been arsey over smoking in pubs in sufficient numbers, it would still be going on and no amount of legislation would have forced any other outcome. A bit like the poll tax.

 

I'm not buying that, when it comes to the ban on smoking in indoor public places there are no exceptions in Scotland, Unlike elsewhere in Europe where lines can often get blurry on what is and isn't permitted and smokers often push the boundaries of what they can do, enforcement becomes almost impossible. If the rules on face coverings where as strict as the smoking ban and the sight of, or even a complaint from the public of, a single mask less punter in a shop, pub train or whatever would be enough to cop the owner a hefty fine then they absolutely would be enforcing it. not even the roughest boozers with the roughest punters tolerate flouting of the ban, no matter how much the staff don't like confrontation there either, it just doesn't happen.

In spain, their initial lockdown had no exceptions for personal exercise, key workers had to carry ID and the police regularly stopped and searched people on the streets including checking shopping receipts and ID, the fines for those breaking lockdown were 500 euros ( 10 x ours) and the streets were completely deserted

Say what you like about the UK and Scotlands weird and whacky rules , constantly changing and inconsistent. but except for mandatory closures of events and businesses, there has been little to no attempt to enforce any it them here

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56 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

I will fully admit to being seething as I read this, but Jenny Harries has been telling us all we should avoid "unneccessary socialising" whilst they look at "Omicron". 

What is wrong with these people? 

not nearly as much as people who obey these psychos

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29 minutes ago, effeffsee_the2nd said:

In spain, their initial lockdown had no exceptions for personal exercise, key workers had to carry ID and the police regularly stopped and searched people on the streets including checking shopping receipts and ID, the fines for those breaking lockdown were 500 euros ( 10 x ours) and the streets were completely deserted

And did that give Spain noticeably better outcomes during the first lockdown than elsewhere?

Ultimately the goal of the lockdown rules wasn't for the streets to be completely deserted. Personally I would argue that the fact we weren't all completely banned from leaving our homes for any reason and were allowed to go for a little walk around the block without being stopped by the police was a good thing.

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35 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

Poster child Denmark dropped nearly all restrictions in September. Just to point out comparing countries on different stages of the rollercoaster isn't necessarily meaningful.

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Exactly. So you should probably tell Independent SAGE and the folk screeching at the UK Government in the summer about 'but look at Europe', then.

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2 hours ago, superbigal said:

Cases in Scotland down again another 2.11% today.   Still rising in England.

 

Interesting to see Elixir and Toad is God red dot this....almost as if they would rather see case numbers go up in Scotland. 

Never mind chaps I am sure the figures in England will also drop accordingly as they put on their masks.....thats what you want isnt it?

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2 minutes ago, Michael W said:

Every adult to be offered a booster by the end of January according to Johnson. 

That's only two months away. I really don't see how that's remotely feasible.

We're not starting at zero, though.

We're over 17m already, and are doing about 2.5m per week.

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1 minute ago, Bairnardo said:

Any word on whether or not boosters will be needed for the vaccine passport? 

Austria, Croatia and Israel already need one if your last jag was more than a certain time ago, I think 6 months.

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3 minutes ago, Caledonian1 said:

Interesting to see Elixir and Toad is God red dot this....almost as if they would rather see case numbers go up in Scotland. 

Never mind chaps I am sure the figures in England will also drop accordingly as they put on their masks.....thats what you want isnt it?

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9 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

All the MPs who voted against facemasks for public transport and shops in England. State of these c***s..

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You should have heard some of their speeches.

"Baker says MPs face “a fundamental choice between heading towards heaven and heading towards hell”. The government is taking “the path to hell”, he claims."

 

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3 hours ago, Kima Greggs said:

Yeah, I think 'the left' is doing a lot of work here on this thread, considering a small chunk of the SNP and the PLP, Trade Unions and about 5% of the mainstream press are the only parts of the organised Left with any sort of agency in this country.

The biggest political takeaway from this thread and the last few pages in particular is people simply do not know what they are talking about re political ideology and how their own beliefs and behaviours actually interact with that, and that as much as they'd like to deny it most Scots are just as small c conservative and "My Home's My Castle" Libertarians as any Little Englander. It's also not a surprise that some of the people admitting they have completely changed their views on e.g. independence are self-described former SNP fanboys, just fundamentally unserious people. From a fellow guy who follows the @HibsFan plan

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