Guest Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 26 minutes ago, Salt n Vinegar said: Javid has just made clear that if folk don't get vaccinated and do the behavioural changes that we all know about - he specifically mentioned wearing masks - there WILL be restrictions brought back. It's so blindingly obvious that he really shouldn't have to say it. It takes pressure of the Gov and means the unvaccinated will become the scapegoats should the inevitable restrictions be reintroduced. Cue the vigilante attacks and facebook witch hunts on those evil unvaccinated folk who caused the winter lockdown of 2021 / 2022........ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, WATTOO said: The irony of them sitting in the indoor enclosed space of the press conference without them, wasn't lost on me either. That's a surprise, because almost everything else is. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coooombe Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 31 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said: Remember the news headlines about 10 months ago "15 million jags to freedom" when it was supposedly just for the elderly and vulnerable. Now it's all about boosters. If the experts recommend a booster then I'll be getting a booster. The annoying thing for me though is the messaging. We've been told from the get go that once case numbers go down we can go back to normal, once the elderly are vaccinated we can go back to normal, once everyone has been double jabbed, once the death rate comes down etc. There always seems to be something else around the corner and while the people on charge aren't really responsible for that, they really need to stop the "nearly there" messaging when they have no idea what's coming next. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abdul_Latif Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Anyone else seeing the rumour that the presser today was just a dead cat to detract from a pretty huge story yet to break?… -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Anyone else seeing the rumour that the presser today was just a dead cat to detract from a pretty huge story yet to break?…What story? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alta-pete Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Out in Glasgow today on a rare midweek day off with Mrs a-p for a wee bit shopping, an afternoon tea (The Ivy, recommended) and a few drinks. Mask wearing uniformly complied with all afternoon in the shops, hit the pubs 4 pm and it started the same but now it’s 7pm and no one bothering a shite and just getting on with having their own decent time. And not one establishment has made any effort on the track and trace. Good. Good luck anyone trying any enforcement on the weegie populace. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, Abdul_Latif said: Not sure tbh. A mentalist pal of mine text me in a pretty vague way that we are away to have a stop the clock type story break before the week is out. Was hoping someone might be able to help me out. Likely pish mind, as he’s pretty deep in these conspiracies. Didn't know that you and @Detournement knew each other offline tbh. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 47 minutes ago, Abdul_Latif said: Anyone else seeing the rumour that the presser today was just a dead cat to detract from a pretty huge story yet to break?… Hope it's the magna Carta thing again 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 3 hours ago, Billy Jean King said: NHS bosses want restrictions at sub 50k cases and Javid warns cases could rise to 100k a day. Clear collision course looks to be set here. I suspect Javid will quite rightly, be pointing at the trajectory in Scotland as justification for no new restrictions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 NHS managers squealing for restrictions to make their job easier. Meanwhile there was some clown from Scotland's fire service this evening telling people to not let off fireworks on November 5th because they've got to do extra work that night. Instead, they should 'watch a fireworks display on TV'. Good shout M8. I've got little time for fireworks on November 5th at all, but even less for these fucking losers who now think that it is the UK public's job to make their day at the office as straightforward as possible. Get back in your respective boxes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dawson Park Boy Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 2 hours ago, WATTOO said: The irony of them sitting in the indoor enclosed space of the press conference without them, wasn't lost on me either. They’re absolutely correct. No need for muzzles. We’re human beings. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Is this not bad? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Is this not bad?Bad how ? It shows you are about 5 x more likely to die if unvaccinated than vaccinated and your take is.....bad ???? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 This is pre vaccine fatality rates by age. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, oaksoft said: Is it bad that contracting covid when you are unvaccinated means you are almost 5 times as likely to die compared to doubly vaccinated people? Yes. Yes, it absolutely is bad. I'm talking about a fatality rate of 3.2% for vaccinated over 60s. Pre vaccine the fatality rate was 3.1% for for 64-74. It could be that over 75s are skewing it but that should be more than balanced out by 60-64s and the removal of unhealthy unvaxxed people. Edited October 20, 2021 by Detournement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: Bad how ? It shows you are about 5 x more likely to die if unvaccinated than vaccinated and your take is.....bad ???? Well beyond what I've said to Oaksoft the death rate for unvaxxed people is now 4xs higher than the first two waves. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, oaksoft said: The comparison is between vaccinated and unvaccinated people. You are certainly misinterpreting the pre-vaccine data but after a year of you doing this, I can't be arsed digging to show where you are doing it. You are normally guilty of comparing apples with oranges. Your error will be in that area somewhere. No idea whether you do this deliberately or because you don't know any better but I'll leave it to others to point out your specific error. Sure you could... All I think here is that Conway has fucked up his numbers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Well beyond what I've said to Oaksoft the death rate for unvaxxed people is now 4xs higher than the first two waves. Your mad as a box of frogs. Bacofoil shares on the rise ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 This looks more realistic. The 3.1% number is clearly wrong. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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