NotThePars Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Computer says no....no alternative.... no rational mitigation possible...self destruct programmed... Modern airport security is known for its relaxed and common sense approach to letting people on planes right enough 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 15 minutes ago, pozbaird said: Going to London for the NFL tomorrow armed with not only my mobile phone, which has the match tickets and vaccine bullshit on it in digital form, but printed match tickets, printed vaccine bullshit proof, printed Heathrow Express tickets, and a printed note of the Glasgow Airport car park reference, the hotel details and reference, and have chosen to collect proper printed boarding passes from BA at the airport. As others have said, digital has its place, but I’ve been burned with the feckin’ things not working properly for whatever reason too many times. Printed for me all the way baby. Hewlett Packard likes this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted October 14, 2021 Author Share Posted October 14, 2021 https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20211007-the-parents-who-dont-want-to-go-back-to-the-office?at_medium=custom7&at_custom3=BBC+News&at_custom1=[post+type]&at_custom2=facebook_page&at_custom4=6B37D114-2B04-11EC-8A70-CB433A982C1E&at_campaign=64 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, ICTChris said: https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20211007-the-parents-who-dont-want-to-go-back-to-the-office?at_medium=custom7&at_custom3=BBC+News&at_custom1=[post+type]&at_custom2=facebook_page&at_custom4=6B37D114-2B04-11EC-8A70-CB433A982C1E&at_campaign=64 I see this and raise you Sir Iain Duncan Smith In the 1940s they kept coming to the office - even when Hitler's bombs were raining down 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Nobody would be shocked by any of that. Paper copies of their passport, however, would be a different story.If you go back to yesterday the whole argument started because Left Back didn't understand why people had paper copies of the vaccine certificate.Even if the app had been successfully launched I'd still have the paper copy as a backup.All it takes is one dropped device (or one swim with it in your pocket as I have done in the past) and you're fucked.That being said it would have been better if they'd issued driver's licence sized cards for travel purposes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowhereman Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 I'm just back from Greece and on the way out I did take paper copies. But on the way back you have no option but to be digital. You can't do Passenger locator form until 48 hours before return and cant get boarding passes until you have the form. If you don't have access to a printer (which you wont have unless in a hotel) it has to be digital. I have no idea how people who aren't tech minded can go on holiday these days. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 I think in as much as it might make sense to avail yourself of a backup, its somewhat missing the point that we absolutely shouldn't have to be thinking about this. The vaccine passports are an unprecedented intrusion into normality and its unacceptable that anyone should have to be thinking about what to do when the governments own app fucks up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipa Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 53 minutes ago, NotThePars said: Modern airport security is known for its relaxed and common sense approach to letting people on planes right enough Flew Edinburgh to London and back last weekend and was extremely surprised to not get ID checked once! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbigal Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 (edited) Daily Summary for @oaksoft : Deaths 29 (30 day before), ICU cases 50 down 1 (4 new admissions), In hospital with confirmed Covid 908 down 10 (78 admissions). Figures for Jags. 1st Vaccines 4,372 to 5,112 2nd vaccines 2,284 to 2,797 Daily Cases Update: A second day decreasing again down 0.81% albeit positivity up again to 8.4% Looks like another fall tomorrow. Still think we are stuck at 300+ for a while yet. Perfect time for a foreign holiday in Tenerife on Saturday with cases at 16.9 per 100K. About 5% of Scotland's levels. Cases certainly back on the rise in the UK in all nations. Over 45K cases today. Total Cases Scotland 7 days 5th October to 11th October were 17,217 to 17,078 down 0.81%, Positivity was 8.3% now 8.4%. Cases per 100K were 315.0 now 312.4 Home Nations Daily Cases per 100K update : UK Average 372.6 to 381.4 up 2.36%, England 366.8 to 376.1 up 2.54%, Wales 528.9 to 538.5 up 1.82%, Northern Ireland 454.8 to 459.9 up 1.12% In Europe for travellers (Countries Population over 3 Million) Serbia 496.6 (weekly change -8%), Romania 494.8 (weekly up 15%), Bulgaria 245.9 (Weekly up 20%), Moldova 232.4 (Weekly up 9%), Ireland 227.5 (Weekly up 43%), Croatia 224.4 (weekly up 3%), Ukraine 220.9 (Week up 35%), Slovakia 190.6 (weekly up 24%)These are the only countries over 155 cases per 100K. The Baltic states Lithuania 561, Latvia 597 & Estonia 527 with smaller populations are in a bad way At the other end for holiday makers Canary Islands 16.9, Spain 22.9, Italy 29.4, Portugal 45.8, France 46.4, Cyprus 88.7, Greece 153.5, Turkey 249.0 Scotland peaks in wave 4 at 817.1 for 1st Sep to 7th Sep, (UK was 392.1), Cases that day were 44,663 and positivity 12.5% Scotland peaks in Wave 3 at 425.1 for 27th June to 3rd July, (UK was 229.9) . Cases that day were 23,222 and positivity 10.8% Scotland peaked in wave 2 at 301.9 for figures 29th Dec to 4th Jan, (UK was 642.1) Cases that day were 16,496 and test positivity rate was 11.9% Council progress in last 24 Hours as follows. Click cases by neighbourhood to see the spread on the geographical map. https://public.tableau.com/profile/phs.covid.19#!/vizhome/COVID-19DailyDashboard_15960160643010/Overview Stirling 487.9 to 470.9 West Lothian 464.0 to 441.2 Dundee City 438.8 to 436.8 Fife 402.0 to 395.0 Aberdeenshire 404.6 to 388.8 East Renfrewshire 372.7 to 388.3 Rising both days as country falls. East Ayrshire 397.2 to 378.3 Falkirk 369.3 to 366.2 North Ayrshire 344.9 to 361.3 Rising both days as country falls. North Lanarkshire 367.9 to 354.7 Moray 354.2 to 330.2 Scottish Borders 338.4 to 322.8 South Lanarkshire 312.9 to 318.6 BELOW AVERAGE Renfrewshire 300.5 to 309.4 Rising both days as country falls. West Dunbartonshire 295.4 to 306.8 Clackmannanshire 269.1 to 304.2 Rising both days as country falls. Angus 303.1 to 301.3 East Lothian 249.3 to 291.9 Up near 20% and 6 places East Dunbartonshire 283.2 to 291.5 Perth & Kinross 293.6 to 289.0 Dumfries & Galloway 285.3 to 276.5 Inverclyde 255.6 to 255.6 Glasgow City 261.5 to 255.5 Aberdeen City 265.9 to 255.0 Argyll & Bute 237.6 to 249.3 Midlothian 238.3 to 246.9 City Of Edinburgh 241.3 to 245.3 South Ayrshire 246.1 to 245.2 Highlands 214.9 to 215.8 Western Isles 132.1 to 124.5 Shetland Islands 109.3 to 113.7 Orkney Islands 75.9 to 71.4 Edited October 14, 2021 by superbigal 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, Shipa said: Flew Edinburgh to London and back last weekend and was extremely surprised to not get ID checked once! Been a while since I've done it but used to regularly fly the BA shuttle on that route. They didn't used to ID you on internal flights. The likes of Easyjet always did. I was once told that this was to ensure people weren't bulk buying cheap tickets then selling them on. No idea how true that was. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 I think in as much as it might make sense to avail yourself of a backup, its somewhat missing the point that we absolutely shouldn't have to be thinking about this. The vaccine passports are an unprecedented intrusion into normality and its unacceptable that anyone should have to be thinking about what to do when the governments own app fucks up. If it is for domestic use then it is an intrusion - and I've been consistently against domestic vaccine passports.However, international travel is an entirely different matter - even if we chose not to use vaccine passports we would still be obliged to use them to get into certain countries or to use certain facilities in certain countries.The real issue is how fucking slow the UK and Scottish governments were to deal with this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 1 hour ago, pozbaird said: Going to the NFL Can you get vaccinated against that? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Have some faith in Magic Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 (edited) 32 minutes ago, superbigal said: Daily Summary for @oaksoft : Deaths 29 (30 day before), ICU cases 50 down 1 (4 new admissions), In hospital with confirmed Covid 908 down 10 (78 admissions). Figures for Jags. 1st Vaccines 4,372 to 5,112 2nd vaccines 2,284 to 2,797 Daily Cases Update: A second day decreasing again down 0.81% albeit positivity up again to 8.4% Looks like another fall tomorrow. Still think we are stuck at 300+ for a while yet. Perfect time for a foreign holiday in Tenerife on Saturday with cases at 16.9 per 100K. About 5% of Scotland's levels. Cases certainly back on the rise in the UK in all nations. Another near 43K cases yesterday.. Total Cases Scotland 7 days 5th October to 11th October were 17,217 to 17,078 down 0.81%, Positivity was 8.3% now 8.4%. Cases per 100K were 315.0 now 312.4 Home Nations Daily Cases per 100K update : UK Average 363.3 to 372.6 up 2.56%, England 357.2 to 366.8 up 2.69%, Wales 520.8 to 528.9 up 1.56%, Northern Ireland 440.6 to 454.8 up 3.22% In Europe for travellers (Countries Population over 3 Million) Serbia 496.6 (weekly change -8%), Romania 494.8 (weekly up 15%), Bulgaria 245.9 (Weekly up 20%), Moldova 232.4 (Weekly up 9%), Ireland 227.5 (Weekly up 43%), Croatia 224.4 (weekly up 3%), Ukraine 220.9 (Week up 35%), Slovakia 190.6 (weekly up 24%)These are the only countries over 155 cases per 100K. The Baltic states Lithuania 561, Latvia 597 & Estonia 527 with smaller populations are in a bad way At the other end for holiday makers Canary Islands 16.9, Spain 22.9, Italy 29.4, Portugal 45.8, France 46.4, Cyprus 88.7, Greece 153.5, Turkey 249.0 Scotland peaks in wave 4 at 817.1 for 1st Sep to 7th Sep, (UK was 392.1), Cases that day were 44,663 and positivity 12.5% Scotland peaks in Wave 3 at 425.1 for 27th June to 3rd July, (UK was 229.9) . Cases that day were 23,222 and positivity 10.8% Scotland peaked in wave 2 at 301.9 for figures 29th Dec to 4th Jan, (UK was 642.1) Cases that day were 16,496 and test positivity rate was 11.9% Council progress in last 24 Hours as follows. Click cases by neighbourhood to see the spread on the geographical map. https://public.tableau.com/profile/phs.covid.19#!/vizhome/COVID-19DailyDashboard_15960160643010/Overview Stirling 487.9 to 470.9 West Lothian 464.0 to 441.2 Dundee City 438.8 to 436.8 Fife 402.0 to 395.0 Aberdeenshire 404.6 to 388.8 East Renfrewshire 372.7 to 388.3 Rising both days as country falls. East Ayrshire 397.2 to 378.3 Falkirk 369.3 to 366.2 North Ayrshire 344.9 to 361.3 Rising both days as country falls. North Lanarkshire 367.9 to 354.7 Moray 354.2 to 330.2 Scottish Borders 338.4 to 322.8 South Lanarkshire 312.9 to 318.6 BELOW AVERAGE Renfrewshire 300.5 to 309.4 Rising both days as country falls. West Dunbartonshire 295.4 to 306.8 Clackmannanshire 269.1 to 304.2 Rising both days as country falls. Angus 303.1 to 301.3 East Lothian 249.3 to 291.9 Up near 20% and 6 places East Dunbartonshire 283.2 to 291.5 Perth & Kinross 293.6 to 289.0 Dumfries & Galloway 285.3 to 276.5 Inverclyde 255.6 to 255.6 Glasgow City 261.5 to 255.5 Aberdeen City 265.9 to 255.0 Argyll & Bute 237.6 to 249.3 Midlothian 238.3 to 246.9 City Of Edinburgh 241.3 to 245.3 South Ayrshire 246.1 to 245.2 Highlands 214.9 to 215.8 Western Isles 132.1 to 124.5 Shetland Islands 109.3 to 113.7 Orkney Islands 75.9 to 71.4 Glasgow after spending 17 months at the top or in the top 3 could end up being the least covidy council that isn't just an expanse of emptiness. Remarkable stuff from the weegies, must have been that extra two or three weeks the pubs were shut for in May..... Edited October 14, 2021 by Have some faith in Magic 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 36 minutes ago, Nowhereman said: I'm just back from Greece and on the way out I did take paper copies. But on the way back you have no option but to be digital. You can't do Passenger locator form until 48 hours before return and cant get boarding passes until you have the form. If you don't have access to a printer (which you wont have unless in a hotel) it has to be digital. I have no idea how people who aren't tech minded can go on holiday these days. There was a couple of internet cafes nearby when I was coming back from Portugal but I didn't bother, just made sure my phone and battery bank were fully charged. There are limits to my precautionary outlook. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 1 hour ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: That being said it would have been better if they'd issued driver's licence sized cards for travel purposes. Nah it would've been better if they binned this ridiculous scheme altogether, saving businesses, nightclubs, football clubs, airports, airlines and your every day average punter from a whole lot of hassle and expense. But hey, the SNP make no apologies for keeping people safe. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Nah it would've been better if they binned this ridiculous scheme altogether, saving businesses, nightclubs, football clubs, airports, airlines and your every day average punter from a whole lot of hassle and expense. But hey, the SNP make no apologies for keeping people safe. And just how do you provide proof of vaccination for countries that require it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: You can't get into some other countries without proof of vaccination. Or are you too fucking thick to understand that? If Scotland didn't demand proof of vaccine for getting home from abroad, thousands (if not millions) could go on holiday without any of this rigmarole. If Scotland didn't demand that various businesses put measures in place to check every single person entering a nightclub/football stadium or other large venue, businesses could be back operating completely as normal and we could be enjoying ourselves without any of this rigmarole. But aye, if Scotland had only spent millions on making up wee ID cards for folk that would've been much better. But I suppose I'm just a thick c**t 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbigal Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Home Nations Daily Cases per 100K update : UK Average 372.6 to 381.4 up 2.36%, England 366.8 to 376.1 up 2.54%, Wales 528.9 to 538.5 up 1.82%, Northern Ireland 454.8 to 459.9 up 1.12%, Scotland 315.0 to 312.4 down 0.81%. UK cases today 45,066 so plenty more rising days in the rest of the UK to come. I expect the UK to get up to 450. 10-19 year olds in England now well over 1000 per 100K. Deaths 157 of which Scotland had 29 or near 20%. Our mortality in last 2 months compared to rest of UK is horrific. We should be at nearer 10%. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 [emoji38] If Scotland didn't demand proof of vaccine for getting home from abroad, thousands (if not millions) could go on holiday without any of this rigmarole. If Scotland didn't demand that various businesses put measures in place to check every single person entering a nightclub/football stadium or other large venue, businesses could be back operating completely as normal and we could be enjoying ourselves without any of this rigmarole. But aye, if Scotland had only spent millions on making up wee ID cards for folk that would've been much better. But I suppose I'm just a thick c**t Jesus fucking wept. Other counties are demanding either PCR/LFTs or proof of vaccination to enter their countries.Even if there were no domestic vaccine passport you would still need proof of vaccination to travel to many countries abroad - certainly for the immediate future.You really are a fucking simpleton if you don't get that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowhereman Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, The Moonster said: If Scotland didn't demand proof of vaccine for getting home from abroad, thousands (if not millions) could go on holiday without any of this rigmarole. If Scotland didn't demand that various businesses put measures in place to check every single person entering a nightclub/football stadium or other large venue, businesses could be back operating completely as normal and we could be enjoying ourselves without any of this rigmarole. But aye, if Scotland had only spent millions on making up wee ID cards for folk that would've been much better. But I suppose I'm just a thick c**t Proof of vaccine is the easy part as far as travelling abroad is concerned. All you have to do is download a copy of your vaccine record. It is the passenger locator form and the necessity to organise tests that is the expensive and time consuming part. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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