Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[realmadrid]

The UK will join the EU Covid vaccine passport scheme imminently, smoothing entry to some countries.

https://www.ttgmedia.com/news/uk-travellers-to-benefit-from-eu-vaccine-certificate-scheme-30632

Sources in Westminster and Brussels told the Daily Telegraph Britain was on the verge of integrating the UK database into the EU system.

The UK formally applied to join the scheme on 28 July and work has continued since to merge UK data. Once complete, it will digitally verify Covid credentials not just in the UK, but across the EU and beyond, as the EU scheme covers more than 40 countries including Morocco and Turkey.

The scheme will benefit double jabbed Britons who will no longer have to test before departure to enter some countries once the EU Covid certificate is issued to them. It will also make entry to bars and restaurants easier.

The system enables border guards and restaurant and bar owners to use an app to read the QR code on an individual’s vaccine certificate.

[welshbairn]

1 hour ago, Elixir said:

Yup. I am honestly baffled how things like binning masks, not having vaxx certificates and contact tracing any more appears to be utterly uncontroversial in Scandinavia, the most progressive place on Earth, where literally nobody will keep wearing a mask now it's no longer required.

Yet here just look at the state people get in. I think it simply has to be down to such a polarised political climate here and in America, etc - where as in Scandinavia their political make-up is more diverse so there has to be compromises.

If Ireland follow through with binning vaxx certs in a few weeks, as well as masks, I really just don't know what else can be said about Sturgeon and the Scottish Government.

You keep banging on about Scandinavia. Sweden had the highest rates in Europe early Spring and introduced new restrictions, Denmark was the first country to make covid passports mandatory. Now Sweden and Denmark have cases under 50/100,000, Norway around 90. We're still over 400. Of course countries ease off at different times. In most of Europe mask use is far more prevalent than here.

[Detournement]

2 minutes ago, realmadrid said:

The UK will join the EU Covid vaccine passport scheme imminently, smoothing entry to some countries.

https://www.ttgmedia.com/news/uk-travellers-to-benefit-from-eu-vaccine-certificate-scheme-30632

Sources in Westminster and Brussels told the Daily Telegraph Britain was on the verge of integrating the UK database into the EU system.

The UK formally applied to join the scheme on 28 July and work has continued since to merge UK data. Once complete, it will digitally verify Covid credentials not just in the UK, but across the EU and beyond, as the EU scheme covers more than 40 countries including Morocco and Turkey.

The scheme will benefit double jabbed Britons who will no longer have to test before departure to enter some countries once the EU Covid certificate is issued to them. It will also make entry to bars and restaurants easier.

The system enables border guards and restaurant and bar owners to use an app to read the QR code on an individual’s vaccine certificate.

Just a conspiracy theory though. 

[101]

2 minutes ago, realmadrid said:

The UK will join the EU Covid vaccine passport scheme imminently, smoothing entry to some countries.

https://www.ttgmedia.com/news/uk-travellers-to-benefit-from-eu-vaccine-certificate-scheme-30632

Sources in Westminster and Brussels told the Daily Telegraph Britain was on the verge of integrating the UK database into the EU system.

The UK formally applied to join the scheme on 28 July and work has continued since to merge UK data. Once complete, it will digitally verify Covid credentials not just in the UK, but across the EU and beyond, as the EU scheme covers more than 40 countries including Morocco and Turkey.

The scheme will benefit double jabbed Britons who will no longer have to test before departure to enter some countries once the EU Covid certificate is issued to them. It will also make entry to bars and restaurants easier.

The system enables border guards and restaurant and bar owners to use an app to read the QR code on an individual’s vaccine certificate.

Sensible and desirable 2 words not often said during the pandemic.

I assume the EU have finally given the India manufactured AZ equivalence to the Belgian manufactured one.

[welshbairn]

11 minutes ago, realmadrid said:

The UK will join the EU Covid vaccine passport scheme imminently, smoothing entry to some countries.

https://www.ttgmedia.com/news/uk-travellers-to-benefit-from-eu-vaccine-certificate-scheme-30632

Sources in Westminster and Brussels told the Daily Telegraph Britain was on the verge of integrating the UK database into the EU system.

The UK formally applied to join the scheme on 28 July and work has continued since to merge UK data. Once complete, it will digitally verify Covid credentials not just in the UK, but across the EU and beyond, as the EU scheme covers more than 40 countries including Morocco and Turkey.

The scheme will benefit double jabbed Britons who will no longer have to test before departure to enter some countries once the EU Covid certificate is issued to them. It will also make entry to bars and restaurants easier.

The system enables border guards and restaurant and bar owners to use an app to read the QR code on an individual’s vaccine certificate.

I can't find that story anywhere in the Telegraph, but hopefully if true Scotland's data will be merged too. I thought we were just negotiating to have our apps recognised by individual countries.

[Cyclizine]

1 hour ago, Honest Saints Fan said:

Been trying to get info on how I can get a 3rd primary vaccine (not booster) due to having Myeloma. GP says no idea. Phoned Public Health Scotland and they had never heard of it. It was published by JCVI on 1st September and is in chapter 14a of the vaccine Green Book. Shambles.  

All the information is on the NHS Inform website: https://www.nhsinform.scot/covid-19-vaccine/the-vaccines/coronavirus-covid-19-booster-vaccination

[welshbairn]

1 hour ago, Honest Saints Fan said:

Been trying to get info on how I can get a 3rd primary vaccine (not booster) due to having Myeloma. GP says no idea. Phoned Public Health Scotland and they had never heard of it. It was published by JCVI on 1st September and is in chapter 14a of the vaccine Green Book. Shambles.  

Thought the booster jag was just the same as the first two? As you've been on the shielded list you should be getting an invite soon.

P.S. Maybe you should get in touch with your consultant. From the Green Book ch14a..

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The decision on the timing of the third dose should be undertaken by the specialist involved
in the care of the patient. In general, vaccines administered during periods of minimum
immunosuppression (where possible) are more likely to generate better immune responses.
The third dose should be given ideally at least 8 weeks after the second dose, with special
attention paid to current or planned immunosuppressive therapies. Where possible the
third dose should be delayed until two weeks after the period of immunosuppression, in
addition to the time period for clearance of the therapeutic agent. If not possible,
consideration should be given to vaccination during a treatment ‘holiday’ or when the
degree of immunosuppression is at a minimum. 

 

[Honest Saints Fan]

14 minutes ago, Cyclizine said:

All the information is on the NHS Inform website: https://www.nhsinform.scot/covid-19-vaccine/the-vaccines/coronavirus-covid-19-booster-vaccination

It's not the booster. This is a Third full dose vaccine for certain immunosuppressed people. They may then get a booster vaccine in 6 months. 

1 minute ago, welshbairn said:

Thought the booster jag was just the same as the first two? As you've been on the shielded list you should be getting an invite soon.

P.S. Maybe you should get in touch with your consultant. From the Green Book ch14a..

 

It's a third vaccine then potentially a booster 4th one in 6 months. I think some of the boosters may be half doses but the "third" one is a full dose. 

Consultant is the last person I'll try. He's a grumpy (but lovely) man so wanted to go their last. For Public Health Scotland to say they know f**k all about is shocking though, considering some of my cancer pals got their 3rd dose on Friday! 

[welshbairn]

2 minutes ago, Honest Saints Fan said:

It's not the booster. This is a Third full dose vaccine for certain immunosuppressed people. They may then get a booster vaccine in 6 months. 

It's a third vaccine then potentially a booster 4th one in 6 months. I think some of the boosters may be half doses but the "third" one is a full dose. 

Consultant is the last person I'll try. He's a grumpy (but lovely) man so wanted to go their last. For Public Health Scotland to say they know f**k all about is shocking though, considering some of my cancer pals got their 3rd dose on Friday! 

Maybe point your GP to the Green book section? It's forgivable for him/her not to know it off by heart..

[Cyclizine]

7 minutes ago, Honest Saints Fan said:

It's not the booster. This is a Third full dose vaccine for certain immunosuppressed people. They may then get a booster vaccine in 6 months. 

It's a third vaccine then potentially a booster 4th one in 6 months. I think some of the boosters may be half doses but the "third" one is a full dose. 

Consultant is the last person I'll try. He's a grumpy (but lovely) man so wanted to go their last. For Public Health Scotland to say they know f**k all about is shocking though, considering some of my cancer pals got their 3rd dose on Friday! 

Fair enough, I thought you were talking about the winter booster. You should speak to the haematology consultant - the Green Book guidance specifically says specialist decision, I think its entirely understandable that your GP doesn't know about this.

[Honest Saints Fan]

Just now, Cyclizine said:

Fair enough, I thought you were talking about the winter booster. You should speak to the haematology consultant - the Green Book guidance specifically says specialist decision, I think its entirely understandable that your GP doesn't know about this.

Haematology and GP are pretty close so will maybe send them both the Green Book page. It was well advertised at the time but the Booster news has taken over. 

My friend got a blue envelope with an appointment so no input from consultant. 

f**k knows

[Lyle Lanley]

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AHEAD of Sunday’s Scottish Premiership match against Hibernian, Rangers would like to update supporters on the introduction of vaccine certificate checks across Scotland.

From October 1, following legislation introduced by the Scottish Government, everyone attending matches at Ibrox Stadium must be fully vaccinated and everyone must bring proof of this status with you to the match, unless exempt.

According to Scottish Government guidelines, fully vaccinated means “… vaccinated with a MHA recognised vaccine in line with the MHA recommended number of doses for the vaccine used, and two weeks have passed for the vaccine to take effect.”

Supporters are encouraged to arrive with a hard copy of their vaccine certificate, however digital copies will also be accepted. Visitors from all parts of the UK will be able to use their existing vaccine certificates.

The following groups are exempt from carrying proof of vaccination:

Under 18’s

People who are not able to receive the vaccine for medical reasons

Participants in vaccine trials

Workers or volunteers at the venue or event

Those exempt for medical reasons or due to participation in vaccine trials are asked to carry an official letter to confirm this. You will not be admitted to the stadium without this.

Covid status certification does not replace existing measures and supporters are encouraged to continue to wear face coverings and follow test and protect rules and guidance.

Rangers are obliged to follow legislation. We appreciate supporters cooperation at this time.

Those vaccinated in Scotland can access their certificates by following the instructions here.

Rangers just released an update on vaccine passports. 

So you don't have to show your vaccine passport if you are worker but have to do so if you're a fan  

[gmca]

29 minutes ago, Honest Saints Fan said:

It's not the booster. This is a Third full dose vaccine for certain immunosuppressed people. They may then get a booster vaccine in 6 months. 

It's a third vaccine then potentially a booster 4th one in 6 months. I think some of the boosters may be half doses but the "third" one is a full dose. 

Consultant is the last person I'll try. He's a grumpy (but lovely) man so wanted to go their last. For Public Health Scotland to say they know f**k all about is shocking though, considering some of my cancer pals got their 3rd dose on Friday! 

Got my third dose today, and was told research is ongoing to determine if booster shots will be needed.

My invitation for the third dose came in a letter from NHS Scotland and just said "according to our records...". Suggests that, if you got your original doses as part of the immunosuppressed cohort, the letter should come out automatically.

Good luck.

[superbigal]

Home Nations Daily Cases per 100K update  :  UK Average  332.1 to 341.5 up 2.83%, England  302.6 to 313.7 up 3.67%, Wales 614.7 to 639.0 up 3.95%, Northern Ireland   423.6 to 417.9 down 1.35%    Scotland 409.4

Wave 4 continues to surge in England & Wales and with 38,000 cases reported today set to continue.  Wales streaking clear now as the worlds covid hotspot.  Top 10 councils in UK all in wales.

 

Edited September 27, 2021 by superbigal

[true_rover]

27 minutes ago, Lyle Lanley said:

Rangers just released an update on vaccine passports. 

So you don't have to show your vaccine passport if you are worker but have to do so if you're a fan  

I'm sure if workers could be forced to they would also be included, but there are many legal issues around forcing someone to be vaccinated to go to work.

[Elixir]

1 hour ago, welshbairn said:

You keep banging on about Scandinavia. Sweden had the highest rates in Europe early Spring and introduced new restrictions, Denmark was the first country to make covid passports mandatory. Now Sweden and Denmark have cases under 50/100,000, Norway around 90. We're still over 400. Of course countries ease off at different times. In most of Europe mask use is far more prevalent than here.

Could you please take your disingenuous trolling somewhere else?

I'll try spelling it out for you one more time, though: the pandemic phase is essentially now over in most of Europe, and is certainly considered as such in Scandinavia now that the population wide vaccination program is complete. So what matters regarding how we live our lives is what is happening here and now - not in the past where a range of mitigation strategies were being pursued.

Take your time and go over this slowly. Thanks.

[welshbairn]

Just now, Elixir said:

Could you please take your disingenuous trolling somewhere else?

I'll try spelling it out for you one more time, though: the pandemic phase is essentially now over in most of Europe, and is certainly considered as such in Scandinavia now that the population wide vaccination program is complete. So what matters regarding how we live our lives is what is happening here and now - not in the past where a range of mitigation strategies were being pursued.

Take your time and go over this slowly. Thanks.

The Netherlands treats us as an area of very high risk and restricts our travel there accordingly, as do many other countries. Wales has just taken our place as the most infected country on the planet. Moving along please, nothing happening here. There was zero chance of Scandinavia removing their restrictions if their case rates were as high as ours.

[Detournement]

A German university is bringing in coloured wrist bands to identify unvaccinated people. What could go wrong. 

Edited September 27, 2021 by Detournement

[gmca]

3 hours ago, Honest Saints Fan said:

Been trying to get info on how I can get a 3rd primary vaccine (not booster) due to having Myeloma. GP says no idea. Phoned Public Health Scotland and they had never heard of it. It was published by JCVI on 1st September and is in chapter 14a of the vaccine Green Book. Shambles.  

Looking at my invitation letter, they give a number for the vaccination helpline - 0800 030 8013. Hopefully they may be able to help. Just have your CHI number handy.

[Detournement]

45 minutes ago, true_rover said:

I'm sure if workers could be forced to they would also be included, but there are many legal issues around forcing someone to be vaccinated to go to work.

Not in Lithuania or Italy at the moment. And if the vaccine rate goes high enough here it will be enforced here as well.