welshbairn Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 19 minutes ago, oaksoft said: I am pretty sure there have been a few research paper saying they didn't work. Well that's me convinced. Meanwhile people on here who actually work on Covid patients have kindly furnished you with several links to studies that say they do work, but you chose to ignore. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 23 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Well that's me convinced. Meanwhile people on here who actually work on Covid patients have kindly furnished you with several links to studies that say they do work, but you chose to ignore. "People who work with Covid patients" are no more qualified on the benefits of mask wearing than bin lorry drivers are on the impact of landfill on climate change. As far as I am aware there have been no peer reviewed studies on mask wearing that didn't either happen at the same time as other restrictions or were comparing different states or countries. Based on what is happening in the UK just now, anyone doing a study based on restrictions and transmittal would determine that masks are a contributor to transmittal. Personally I don't think they contribute but real world evidence, using the same interpretation of data that were in the studies (I am thinking about the American one that compared different states) would conclude that I was wrong. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 No rational person would claim that masks are either perfect or useless, it just depends on where they lie on the "are they worth bothering with" line in-between that matters. A study that ignores the protection an individual gets from others wearing masks is useless in finding out whether they're worthwhile or not 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Going down in every age group now, without the need for any additional restrictions. Good. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Aside from his usual lying, imagine thinking the Chinese folk wearing full hazmat gear are the rational human beings here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Meanwhile, the Simps on here will be backtracking furiously. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 9 minutes ago, Elixir said: Meanwhile, the Simps on here will be backtracking furiously. That means that we’ll have restrictions till 2030 at the earliest. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 I know they voted on it a few days ago but is anyone expecting the SG to do a u turn on vaccine passports after Javid/Boris confirmed they are being binned down south. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 I know they voted on it a few days ago but is anyone expecting the SG to do a u turn on vaccine passports after Javid/Boris confirmed they are being binned down south. It depends on if england are the outlier I’d say. Ireland have vaccine passports haven’t they? I’d guess that might make the conversation regarding them a bit different in Northern Ireland as they might be keen to copy them, especially for ease at the border. Wales, I’m not sure what their opinion on the passports are. I can’t see sturgeon turning around unless all other nations in the UK do so. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Over 100,000 cases in the last 17 days in Scotland, in a virtually open society. There will be some deaths as a result - barely over 100 I’d have thought when you remove those with positive tests but not dying because of Covid. Not good news if you’re in that number, clearly (!), but out of a total of 2500-3000 people expected to die in that period can we really say that’s a problem? More will die of a stroke in the same timeframe. If the government would scrap the restrictions placed on healthcare staff to allow fully-functioning wards/full staff rotas/end isolation requirements I think we could officially call the pandemic over to be honest. It clearly places pressure on healthcare which needs to be accounted for, and obviously data still needs to be watched closely, but there is no reason to have any restrictions whatsoever on the population at large. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 (edited) Sturgeon is turning into a high level moron with every passing day. I can't wait to walk up the the voting booth the next time there's an election and draw a hairy, veiny spunking cock all over my voting slip. Edited September 12, 2021 by TheScarf 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 I'll model it on my own amirite guys! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, TheScarf said: I'll model it on my own amirite guys! Don't want to be the next voter after you've been in the booth. Thankfully I'll be drawing the cock and balls on my postal vote. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, TheScarf said: I'll model it on my own amirite guys! Careful - if it fits in a single box it’ll probably be counted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 21 minutes ago, Lyle Lanley said: I know they voted on it a few days ago but is anyone expecting the SG to do a u turn on vaccine passports after Javid/Boris confirmed they are being binned down south. Nope. It’ll just reinforce the usual “we care more than England” message. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Not matter what way its spun, England's announcement regarding vaccine passports, makes NS looks like an absolute minter. Who knew BJ and co would have more sense on this than the Scottish govt 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said: Not matter what way its spun, England's announcement regarding vaccine passports, makes NS looks like an absolute minter. Who knew BJ and co would have more sense on this than the Scottish govt Especially since she hasn't really finalised any plans, and the vote was largely based on "England is going to do this, will we do it too?" Now she's not only stuck rolling out a scheme that England aren't going to, but there will be no blueprint available to adapt to be more care morey. That alone guarantees it will be shambolic. Edited September 12, 2021 by Todd_is_God 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Bully Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 14 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said: Not matter what way its spun, England's announcement regarding vaccine passports, makes NS looks like an absolute minter. Who knew BJ and co would have more sense on this than the Scottish govt On this thread, perhaps, In the real world, not so much. -5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, TheBruce said: Some are easily annoyed and just can't wait to play the victim. SNP motto 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Empty It Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 I know they voted on it a few days ago but is anyone expecting the SG to do a u turn on vaccine passports after Javid/Boris confirmed they are being binned down south. Can't see it, Sturgeons ego would take too much of a hit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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