sparky88 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 38 minutes ago, ICTChris said: Finally and this is a more unprovable point, but Scotland has a conformist political and social culture. That lends itself to one party or group being preeminent. Or an Ulsterisation of the Scottish electorate has happened (or maybe always existed) where independence supporters chose from Yes supporting parties and vice versa. Given the lack of choice on the Yes side, we are then left with the spectacle of Yes supporters trying to defend stuff they probably don't agree with . Like the extension of emergency powers by the SNP. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 It would be wrong of me to tar all the Helens on here moaning about nothing with the brush of Desmond (homophobe, misogynist, covid-denying bigot) Swayne, so it's nice of that DPB zoomer to do it for me. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, WATTOO said: Not really, up until this mornings massive u turn that was also the same "minter" for the UK Gov. I'm not in favour of these passports and I agree that our Gov is a shambles at the moment, however I can't accept that the UK Gov are in some way much better or much more competent, only that they're unarguably better at using and playing the mainstream media. The UK Government has been a shit show, no doubt, but there has definitely been less bed wetting as we have gone through the summer and Hancock got caught pumping in his office then subsequently replaced by Javid. Of course, it helps that they have a sizeable number of backbenchers in their party that keep it in check, unlike the cultists in the Scottish Government. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Could someone remind me of the 'reasoning' for these 'sterile zones' near the dugout and tunnel areas of football stadia in Scotland, which aren't in place in England? More absolutely laughable theatrics.https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-anfield-premier-league-change-21344507They have the exact same in the EPL ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Big Fifer said: Javid has just confirmed on Marr England are not doing vaccine passports. 56 minutes ago, superbigal said: Plus testing requirements when coming back into the country to be binned. Reckless Toaaaarrrriessss 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 17 minutes ago, williemillersmoustache said: It would be wrong of me to tar all the Helens on here moaning about nothing with the brush of Desmond (homophobe, misogynist, covid-denying bigot) Swayne, so it's nice of that DPB zoomer to do it for me. It’s a pleasure. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddfg Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 36 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said: wife and I returning from Spain tomorrow. Paid £68 each for PCR on return and £25 each for antigen tests yesterday. Why?? Just smacks of unnecessary ongoing governmental intervention. I understand everyone's idea of a holiday differs but we had seven days at a pretty empty pool followed by dinner and drinks all of which were taken outside, just about as low risk as it goes. Certainly less risky than both being at work all week and going shopping etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 46 minutes ago, Elixir said: Could someone remind me of the 'reasoning' for these 'sterile zones' near the dugout and tunnel areas of football stadia in Scotland, which aren't in place in England? More absolutely laughable theatrics. It'll be so they don't catch COVID and have to self isolate, meaning they won't be able to play for a few matches. Absolutely nothing to do with actually stopping cases of COVID per se. COVID is no longer the problem, outdated mitigations to protect against COVID are. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Big Fifer said: Javid has just confirmed on Marr England are not doing vaccine passports. 1 hour ago, superbigal said: Plus testing requirements when coming back into the country to be binned. I’m sure there are some on here who will think those decision are not driven by populism and the latest slump in the polls. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Bully Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 26 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-anfield-premier-league-change-21344507 They have the exact same in the EPL ! Is it just me, or is just about every @Elixir claim about what is happening south of the border demonstrably not true. That’s 2 this morning. I know he is desperate for “normality - aren’t we all - but just making shit up isn’t helping his credibility here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 I’m sure there are some on here who will think those decision are not driven by populism and the latest slump in the polls.What should they be doing instead, and more importantly, why? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: I’m sure there are some on here who will think those decision are not driven by populism and the latest slump in the polls. No, they are driven by facts. Vaccines are the only solution. Nothing else. Why is mask enforcing SNP Scotland so high in case numbers? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Bairnardo said: 7 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: I’m sure there are some on here who will think those decision are not driven by populism and the latest slump in the polls. What should they be doing instead, and more importantly, why? I'm going to guess "whatever NS does" and "because independence" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gav-ffc Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Elixir said: Could someone remind me of the 'reasoning' for these 'sterile zones' near the dugout and tunnel areas of football stadia in Scotland, which aren't in place in England? More absolutely laughable theatrics. Because we care more than England… 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 I'm going to guess "whatever NS does" and "because independence"What interests me here is the populism assertion. From the same guy who continually tells us in this thread that resteictions are popular and we are "down a rabbit hole" and "in an echo chamber" etc for wanting them binned. That of course leaves two options....Either he is talking shite, or the population ARE ok with restrictions, but yet ARE NOT ok with vaccine passports. If he were able to see past eveything the SNP does is great, he might question either of the above scenarios. I highly doubt we will see any such self awareness though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Very odd statement re travel PCR tests" I want to TRY to get rid of PCR tests for travel as quickly as possible ". He could announce today they are gone, there is no wanting to try to get rid. It suggests to me they are simply going to be replaced with LFTs which will no doubt have to be private, no NHS ones just to keep the noses firmly in the trough.There is no need for ANY testing for double jabbed travellers returning from countries where rates are a fraction of what they are here. They seem to be of the opinion it's merely the costs folk are objecting to, it isn't it's the whole concept and the hassle. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Just now, Billy Jean King said: Very odd statement re travel PCR tests" I want to TRY to get rid of PCR tests for travel as quickly as possible ". He could announce today they are gone, there is no wanting to try to get rid. It suggests to me they are simply going to be replaced with LFTs which will no doubt have to be private, no NHS ones just to keep the noses firmly in the trough. There is no need for ANY testing for double jabbed travellers returning from countries where rates are a fraction of what they are here. They seem to be of the opinion it's merely the costs folk are objecting to, it isn't it's the whole concept and the hassle. Could it not be he needs to convince foreign governments / airlines / unions / lovejoys that they are no longer needed? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedToGoToCentralPark Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 * not available to viewers in Scotland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Could it not be he needs to convince foreign governments / airlines / unions / lovejoys that they are no longer needed?It's not the fit to fly tests (LFT) AFAIK those will remain this is the UK day 2 PCR once back in the country so those stakeholders are pretty much irrelevant. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, UsedToGoToCentralPark said: * not available to viewers in Scotland. It would be quite an unexpected development for the SG to announce the same at the same time up here. Wonder how NS will react when Scottish travellers inevitably book holidays from English airports when this is announced. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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