djchapsticks Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 48 minutes ago, Lyle Lanley said: If you virtue signal and no-one is a around, is there any virtue at all? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 1 hour ago, craigkillie said: It has always been described as "new cases", and we discussed this very thing on this thread when the test positivity percentage didn't quite match the number of cases. At the time, the discussion was about it being people who had tested positive recently and were having follow-up tests rather than people testing positive a year apart. Has there ever been confirmation that people can be reinfected after having already had covid? Easy to miss in amongst the waffle I just noticed a few journos were on about it today 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, welshbairn said: And now people on here are saying that masks are pointless because they're less than 100% effective. No people are saying they won't necessarily do what they are intended to do if they are not being worn, taken off and washed correctly and making them mandatory is somewhat futile if/when that is what is happening. Edited July 25, 2021 by LongTimeLurker 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: No people are saying they won't necessarily do what they are intended to do if they are not being worn, taken off and washed correctly and making them mandatory is somewhat futile if/when that is what is happening. Think you're giving some posters on here too much credit. The sMalL MoLecUles biG HoLes variety. Edited July 25, 2021 by welshbairn -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 36 minutes ago, Miguel Sanchez said: I've been thinking about these posts since I read them earlier You enjoy live music a lot, certainly more than me and probably the most of anyone on here. If you think the current set-up for Scottish football grounds isn't stringent enough, will you ever go to a gig again? Not for a good while, no. As I understand it, some gigs require a proof of vaccination, some don’t. I know the Fontaines DC tour requires it for entrance. But I don’t feel particularly comfortable being in that environment right now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedToGoToCentralPark Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 If you can still transmit Covid once vaccinated then is it worth vaccinating healthy 12+ children as they aren't likely to die from it if they get it, especially if it turns out boosters will be required? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) @Detournement Edited July 25, 2021 by Todd_is_God 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 5 hours ago, Granny Danger said: craigkillie - the anti-vaxers’ friend. If this inane and intellectually dishonest post is the best you have to offer on the subject then it's not worth engaging with. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Going by many clips of folk wading in the no doubt sewage infested flood waters in London, Covid will be the least of their worries in the next few days. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raithie Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Several days ago nipped out for petrol and some shopping at Sainsburys. Went to go into the garage to pay and something didn't feel right. Forgot my mask. Swithered about going back out to the car for it but by that time was already at the till. Got back to the car and realised I'd forgotten my mask altogether. Was I fook driving home for it so done the food shop maskless. Not a word said nor a dirty look from anyone. In fact saw several people without masks on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Raithie said: Several days ago nipped out for petrol and some shopping at Sainsburys. Went to go into the garage to pay and something didn't feel right. Forgot my mask. Swithered about going back out to the car for it but by that time was already at the till. Got back to the car and realised I'd forgotten my mask altogether. Was I fook driving home for it so done the food shop maskless. Not a word said nor a dirty look from anyone. In fact saw several people without masks on. Was in Waverley station today where i would say several didn’t have masks on where as before you would see everyone wearing them. Nobody gave a f**k. Edited July 26, 2021 by Lyle Lanley 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Almost a quarter of Scots aged 40 to 49 have still not had two coronavirus vaccines despite a target set by the First Minister, which would have seen the group fully vaccinated by Monday. Nicola Sturgeon told Parliament last month that all those in that age group should have received both vaccine doses by July 26. https://news.stv.tv/politics/failure...umiliating?top 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest_Fifer Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Among the news feed I found this gem - https://www.businessinsider.com/london-anti-vaxxer-says-healthcare-workers-face-nuremberg-style-trials-2021-7?r=US&IR=T Anti-vaxx conspiracy theorist tells rally that healthcare workers fighting COVID could face Nuremberg-style trials Mass anti-vaxx protests occurred in London last night, with one conspiracy theorist causing outrage for telling doctors and nurses that they could be tried and hung in Nuremberg-style trials. Speaking at the protests were several renowned right-wing conspiracy theorists, including David Icke, Katie Hopkins - who just got refused entry to Australia for refusing to produce COVID-19 documentation - and Gillian McKeith. The protest, dubbed a "worldwide rally for freedom," in London's Trafalgar Square was held five days after England lifted most of its COVID restrictions. Kate Shemirani, a former nurse who was struck off the Nursing and Midwifery Council in June 2021 for spreading COVID misinformation, addressed the crowd. She told them: "Get their names [of doctors and nurses]. Email them to me. With a group of lawyers, we are collecting all that. At the Nuremberg Trials, the doctors and nurses stood trial, and they hung. If you are a doctor or a nurse, now is the time to get off that bus... and stand with us, the people," reported The Independent. Shemirani's comments have caused a major uproar - not just for endangering and undermining the efforts of healthcare workers in the pandemic - but also for their antisemitic overtones. The Nuremberg Trials were a series of military tribunals held after World War II to convict Nazis of their war crimes, including six million Jews and other minorities for medical trials. The documentation from the Nursing and Midwifery council's case against Shemirani shows the scale of her conspiratorial beliefs - including stating that "you can't catch a virus," describing the "genocidal" NHS as "murdering patients," and claiming that vaccines have been "rushed through" because "they want to kill you." Joining Shemirani was David Icke, an infamous conspiracy theorist who told crowds, "staggering numbers of people worldwide will die from the fake vaccination." He added: "It's the pandemic of the fake vaccinated." Piers Corbyn - brother of the former Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn - also spoke, saying, "you're much more likely to die or get ill from the jab that you are from COVID." The UK has one of the highest vaccination rates globally, with 80% of adults have received at least one dose and 55.4% both. These rates are linking to low hospitalization in the UK. I've seen quite few complete wastes of oxygen on social media, but Shemirani is up there with the best (worst?). And she's big pals with Mark Steele, the Geordie nutcase who thinks LED streetlamps are part of a "kill grid" of directed energy weapons. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 21 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: @Detournement Will the SNP go with the Tory Government on this? That would really put some on here in a bit of a pickle. Also, I wonder if the apparent advocates or those indifferent to 'vaccine passports' are aware that they are disproportionately discriminatory against ethnic minorities, who are among those that are the least vaccinated. This isn't because they have seen some post on Facebook claiming they cause autism, but because of a myriad of complex reasons, including historic, unethical medical treatment towards these groups. So by endorsing 'vaccine passports', you are also endorsing this by default and can subsequently get in the sea. Quote Covid in Scotland: African community has lowest vaccine uptake: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-56916528 Covid: BAME inequalities remain in vaccine uptake: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-56801998 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNU_Linux Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Mark Steele shot a teenage girl in the head who was left with serious disabilities. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest_Fifer Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Mark Steele shot a teenage girl in the head who was left with serious disabilities. He likes to claim that he's a weapons systems expert, but in truth he's only expert at being a complete weapon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 3 hours ago, Lyle Lanley said: Is that for covid contrails floating around or to mask the smell of shite from the tube? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scosha Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 3 hours ago, Lyle Lanley said: 22 minutes ago, Lyle Lanley said: Almost a quarter of Scots aged 40 to 49 have still not had two coronavirus vaccines despite a target set by the First Minister, which would have seen the group fully vaccinated by Monday. Nicola Sturgeon told Parliament last month that all those in that age group should have received both vaccine doses by July 26. https://news.stv.tv/politics/failure...umiliating?top Great, so at least 75% have had 2 doses and will undoubtedly hit at least 80% in the coming weeks. What’s the issue? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 52 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: @Detournement Given that the source is the Telegraph and includes the founder of Punch Taverns, a big donor to the Tories, I think we can take it that this domestic passport plan will be dropped well before the October deadline. Just a little "nudge" to encourage uptake amongst the young that may well backfire. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/07/24/nightclub-bosses-ready-take-government-court-covid-vaccine-passports/?utm_source=ground.news&utm_medium=referral 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, welshbairn said: This gets me every time it's brought up. WTF was wrong with driving his wife to the supermarket and staying in the car while she did the shopping? It's the kind of nit picking pseudo moralising shite Starmer would come up with to avoid speaking about anything meaningful. Love getting the full set with wee Scotty trying to catch up and ever eager Honest Man late as usual Edited July 25, 2021 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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