Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[mizfit]

The race is very nearly run as we reach the limit of vaccine uptake. Those already vaccinated will never be safer than they are now, and the virus will eventually get to those who aren't, who will either die or survive and contribute towards population immunity.

A blunt way to put it but yes, I think most the people interested in the vaccine will have had their first dose and be waiting their second. The others will be people who’ve recently tested positive and are waiting the 4 weeks before taking the vaccine,or the oddballs who believe the vaccine is microchipped and are refusing it.

[Guest]

8 minutes ago, Les Cabbage said:

It’s definitely been knocked by the number of cases we have just now, I’m one among the many that’ll need to wait until august for their first dose due to getting the virus.

Speaking from the people I associate myself with, everyone has either had theres or is waiting on the 28 days from getting the virus to pass before getting their vaccine.

Why does this matter ?

The reason i'm asking is that surely there must be loads of people with no symptoms but "infected" getting their jags without knowing they have the virus ??

Has anyone brought this up or explained it previously ?

[strichener]

1 hour ago, Granny Danger said:

People had gone from insulting him to ignoring him on the Politics Forum.  He’s jumped over to GN and found a whole new group of posters willing to respond to him.  Hopefully they’ll soon learn.

Why, you haven't.

[NotThePars]

Wait til oaksoft learns how those mayors are appointed and what those cities generally think of the Conservatives.

[Les Cabbage]

8 minutes ago, WATTOO said:

Why does this matter ?

The reason i'm asking is that surely there must be loads of people with no symptoms but "infected" getting their jags without knowing they have the virus ??

Has anyone brought this up or explained it previously ?

All I’ve been told is “so that it works properly” when I phoned up to cancel my appointment for Tuesday as I was isolating I was told I would need to wait until 28 days after symptoms appeared.

I don’t know if there’s an official NHS answer somewhere but this was the first result I found on googling why, someone else might be able to give you something a bit more credible;

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2021/04/24/how-long-after-having-covid-19-can-you-get-the-coronavirus-vaccine/amp/

[NotThePars]

Just now, oaksoft said:

Wait till you find out that people from outside that area who DIDN'T vote for these mayors and have no say in the introduction of an oppressive new law are going to have to abide by those rules in order to visit their families if they have to use public transport.

I am currently back in Scotland for the weekend and am remarkably somehow managing to avoid having a meltdown because the restrictions are a bit more strict up here probably because I'm aware that since I don't live here anymore I shouldn't be expecting them to cater to my demands rather than those who live here and vote for the local politicians presumably with support for their positions.

 

[Guest]

10 minutes ago, Les Cabbage said:

All I’ve been told is “so that it works properly” when I phoned up to cancel my appointment for Tuesday as I was isolating I was told I would need to wait until 28 days after symptoms appeared.

I don’t know if there’s an official NHS answer somewhere but this was the first result I found on googling why, someone else might be able to give you something a bit more credible;

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2021/04/24/how-long-after-having-covid-19-can-you-get-the-coronavirus-vaccine/amp/

Cheers, I just wondered as they keep telling us there are so many without symptoms.

[Alert Mongoose]

[DeeTillEhDeh]

I feel you.
Not everyone is interested in the act of lovemaking and not everyone who is interested manages to enjoy it.

It reminded me of Alan Titchmarsh's scribblings.

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[invergowrie arab]

59 minutes ago, cbhaf said:

I'm sure I've heard Sturgeon multiple times saying "we're in a race between the vaccine and the virus".

So what's going on now, the vaccine is going slower and slower (were they not doing 40,000+ a day at some point?)

Is this a real question?

[cbhaf]

3 minutes ago, invergowrie arab said:

Is this a real question?

It's a real question.

If it's a race, I don't know why we're sticking to 8 weeks between first and second doses. Entirely biased on my part being about 5 weeks since my first one. 

[PWL]

Good to have @Alert Mongoose return some much needed sanity to this thread.

Edited July 16, 2021 by PWL

[speckled tangerine]

35 minutes ago, Alert Mongoose said:

The good old days. Nurses and Belarusian football. An average start to the season for Dinamo Brest though....

 

[D Angelo Barksdale]

1 hour ago, NotThePars said:

I am currently back in Scotland for the weekend and am remarkably somehow managing to avoid having a meltdown because the restrictions are a bit more strict up here probably because I'm aware that since I don't live here anymore I shouldn't be expecting them to cater to my demands rather than those who live here and vote for the local politicians presumably with support for their positions.

Furiously demanding that the North Bosworth and Noncington Council pass certain bylaws before I visit my 2nd cousin for the weekend.

[djchapsticks]

Good news is that if the cases vs hospital admissions vs deaths history is anything to go by, we are seeing hospital admissions now peak (about one week after cases peak) and deaths will hit their top end around the end of next week and both at a much, much lower level despite the cases reaching around 40% higher at their highest

 

[superbigal]

UK 51,870 cases today. 49 deaths.   About another 2-3% rise in the other 3 home nations as we continue our daily 2-3% decrease.

England is clearly at least 14 days behind the Scottish "curve".

Schools still open and success in the Football probably the main difference.

[Elixir]

 

[mathematics]

2 hours ago, Snafu said:

These cancellations driven by combination of a lack of staff due to isolating and many not serious issues that can be either phoned to a GP surgery of be treated at home, rather than hospitals being overwhelmed with people in serious conditions from COVID.

Overwhelmed with stuff like this list from pre pandemic -

The 10 most ridiculous reasons people have been to A&E

1. Broken false finger nail that wouldn't come off

2. Splinter in finger

3. Needing emergency contraception

4. Shaving cut, that wasn't visible

5. Paper cut

6. Months of back pain, but not seen a GP

7. Sore throat

8. Hiccups

9. Unable to sleep

10. Run out of medication

It would be funny if it wasn't wasting valuable time for staff in seeing people with serious problems.

Isn’t the president of Brazil in hospital with “hiccups”?

[Thereisalight..]

39 minutes ago, Snafu said:

''Quite Scary''

In Scotland we have peaked our cases, coming close to vaxxing the variant out of existence, played a decent Euros, seen it all, bought the t-shirt and the soft drink. What's next???

Meanwhile in Engerland their post Euro final defeat misery continues as they ignore what has gone before in Scotland and figure out how they must suffer and feel sorry for themselves and maybe drag everyone else down to their level for no reason.

Quite obviously the UKG aren't listening anymore to their advisors on public health. Is social Darwinism now policy and they are doing this to appease the right and far right?  Only kidding.

It is a few days old but my god even I'm getting some mahogany over this fear porn anyone else getting some wood?.

The war on intelligent continues and stupid is winning.

Meanwhile Chris Whity throws fat on the fire, begging the question, Boris why aren't you listening to the science?

https://www.kentlive.news/news/kent-news/chris-whitty-warns-england-could-5661623

Chris Whitty warns England could face another lockdown in next 5 weeks

Whitty warned the Prime Minister may need to "look again" at restrictions if hospital admissions begin doubling and the jabs rollout was not "topping out"

Speaking at a British Science Museum event, Professor Whitty underlined that epidemics are "either doubling or they're halving", adding: "And currently this epidemic is doubling. It's doubling in cases. It is also doubling in people going to hospital, and it's doubling in deaths."

He said that the doubling time for hospital cases was "around three weeks" and while the number of hospitalisations was "mercifully much lower", it was "not trivial".

He said: "We've still got over 2,000 people in hospital, and that number is increasing.

"If we double from 2,000 to 4,000, from 4,000 to 8,000, to 8,000 and so on, it doesn't take many doubling times till you're into very very large numbers indeed."

Professor Whitty stated that medics could soon be faced with "scary numbers again", adding: "I don't think we should underestimate the fact that we could get into trouble again, surprisingly fast."

He said that more people could be fighting the disease in hospital "in five, six, seven, eight weeks' time", and went on: "They could actually be really quite serious... at that point if it looks as if things are not topping out, we do have to look again and see where we think things are going. "

The latest Test and Trace figures showed 194,005 people tested positive for Covid-19 in England in the week to July 7, up 43% on the previous week.

It is the highest number since late January.

In the wake of Prof Whitty's comments, Solicitor General Lucy Frazer admitted "of course" England would "look at" new restrictions if needed.

She told Sky News: “I think the Health Secretary’s been very clear, as has the Prime Minister, that we will see infections rise.

“But the reason why the restrictions have been taken away is because of the vaccination programme, which will protect people when those infection rates do rise.

“And of course if we get into a situation where it’s unacceptable and we do need to put back further restrictions, then that of course is something the government will look at.

“But we’re going into the summer, a large number of people have been vaccinated, we’ve had a really tough time, we’re still asking people to take responsibility, and we do need to ask ourselves - if we don’t open up now, when will we be able to open up.”

Dr Kevin Fong, a consultant anaesthetist and national clinical adviser to NHS England’s emergency preparedness resilience and response team for Covid, also warned the Government it was "beholden upon us to monitor very closely" the impact on the NHS.

 

 

A lockdown in 5 weeks absolute nonsense these so called experts spout. Dont they already know hiding away from the virus is only masking the problem? More hassle and uncertainty for businesses and more mental health issues. If we're at a point where we need another "lockdown" when almost everyone is double dosed with the vaccine then we really need to ask what the fcking point of it was.

[Elixir]

To be fair, at no point did Whitty say that. It's the Daily Mirror slavering.