craigkillie Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, djchapsticks said: As am I. Don't think the idea of a two-tiered society is particularly pleasant one, though. It's not really a "two-tiered society" if unvaccinated people can still enter with a negative test or proof of recent infection. I'd still rather not have it full stop, but my biggest issue was that people would be shut out of society if they didn't want to or couldn't get a vaccine. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Problemo Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 47 minutes ago, craigkillie said: It's not really a "two-tiered society" if unvaccinated people can still enter with a negative test or proof of recent infection. I'd still rather not have it full stop, but my biggest issue was that people would be shut out of society if they didn't want to or couldn't get a vaccine. It really depends how easily accessible testing is, and if a mobile phone etc is required to do this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlipperyP Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 News from the Land of We don't know what we're doing, but Smile. Big shift on the vaccines, Sinovac is pishe (what everyone has been saying for 5 months) Folk who have double dosed with Sinovac, will get a third dose (booster) of AZ Folk who have 1 dose of Sinovac will get a second dose of AZ We are jagging about 10,000 (second dose) per day. 4.6% of the population. It's a sham. Government are still mulling over home isolation if you are positive (everyone must go to hospital quarantine) as numbers rise. It's all about money, as hospitals receive cash for each 'patient', but don't if they stay at home. Remember, you don't have to have any symptoms. You just need 'treatment', whatever the f**k that means. Anyway, if you have to 'receive treatment' at home, you can get up to ฿1100 per day £25. Watch the cases explode, once this is approved. Good little money earner, they are working out. Banning of 'talking' on public transport. We are officially in lockdown. But we are not to call it lockdown, as that would mean workers could claim for their deduction on wage loss. Anyway, it's the same as normal, just the army back out at the checkpoints, rather than the local busybody. Went very quiet on the tourist news, apart from a couple got married and 2 kids tested positive and have been separated from their parents, for at least 14 days. What a holiday experience they must be having. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 8 hours ago, Thereisalight.. said: Labour/Libs have had numerous chances to oppose what BJ has been pushing through and they've stood by ideally. The left parties are just as much to blame here as the cons Low and behold... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 8 hours ago, craigkillie said: It's not really a "two-tiered society" if unvaccinated people can still enter with a negative test or proof of recent infection. I'd still rather not have it full stop, but my biggest issue was that people would be shut out of society if they didn't want to or couldn't get a vaccine. Having to organise a test to do day to day things like eating in a restaurant, attending a football match or meeting someone in a pub is a long way from normal. Macron announced France are going to charge for tests from September so the era of free testing here will probably also be brief. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Can't remember the new restrictions, and can't find a clear answer anywhere, but are you allowed to sit next to a family member, who lives at a different address, at the football just now? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Can't remember the new restrictions, and can't find a clear answer anywhere, but are you allowed to sit next to a family member, who lives at a different address, at the football just now? I think that's allowed once social distancing has been chucked, unless you are in a bubble with them. I.e you or the family member live with no other adults. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Can't remember the new restrictions, and can't find a clear answer anywhere, but are you allowed to sit next to a family member, who lives at a different address, at the football just now? If you turn up together, how will they know where you live? Just do it. Folk need to start getting on with things themselves now, f**k these daft rules. Edited July 13, 2021 by The Moonster 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, 101 said: I think that's allowed once social distancing has been chucked, unless you are in a bubble with them. I.e you or the family member live with no other adults. Other clubs are advertising thusly... ... and I know other fans at the same ground are able to sit beside each despite being different addresses. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 1 minute ago, The Moonster said: If you turn up together, how will they know where you live? Just do it. Folk need to start getting on with things themselves now, f**k these daft rules. Because its not PATG, we've had e-tickets at Saints for a while now and it's all printed on that. We ordered season tickets separately and, without thinking, used different addresses. Just wanting clarification on the actual rules so I can phone Saints today and make sure it doesn't happen again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 1 minute ago, RandomGuy. said: Other clubs are advertising thusly... ... and I know other fans at the same ground are able to sit beside each despite being different addresses. That's interesting maybe they are assuming the wider outdoor socialising rules apply but don't think they cover the live events sector, although no one is going to check unless the club is unfortunate enough to have transmission outdoors in which case Public Health Scotland will go through them. But outdoor transmission is highly unlikely. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Because its not PATG, we've had e-tickets at Saints for a while now and it's all printed on that. We ordered season tickets separately and, without thinking, used different addresses. Just wanting clarification on the actual rules so I can phone Saints today and make sure it doesn't happen again. I doubt they'll be checking each address on each ticket. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Moonster said: I doubt they'll be checking each address on each ticket. What? We're meant to be entering turnstiles at opposite ends of the stadium, an hour apart, then being seated at different ends of the stadium. The ticket has all those details printed on it. Either way, I'd rather know the actual rules so I can phone the club and get it changed so we do get tickets together for any future games. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 The replies... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Nederlander Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 The mother of one of my in-laws tested positive after a bus trip to Blackpool My brother-in-law, who'd been driving her around, went to work regardless but was eventually sent home after casually mentioning it to his employers in passing - he got a test on the way home. Even though he and his wife were in the house yesterday they sent their daughter to stay with his Covid positive mother His test from the other day came back negative so he's away back to work this morning even though he's still been in contact with his mother and his daughter spent the day with her I fucking despair. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 11 hours ago, Thereisalight.. said: France really going full on authoritarian/sinister. Remember the days when the French would rebel? Seems those days are long gone both here and there To be fair the announcement has flooded the vaccination booking system with 900,000+ jags booked rather than circa 150,000 in previous day's, according to France24. I think they can see the way it's going and don't feel the need to fight over it. The yellow vest movement shows they are still Europe's rebels. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted July 13, 2021 Author Share Posted July 13, 2021 I am a centrist when it comes to Covid but some of the stuff from the iSage / zero covid side of the debate is mental. This, for example: It’s an interesting way of looking at the world. Everything that isn’t mandated by the government is a hugely confusing dilemma. I think it says a lot about how people on that side of the debate see the general public. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest_Man#1 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, ICTChris said: I am a centrist when it comes to Covid but some of the stuff from the iSage / zero covid side of the debate is mental. This, for example: It’s an interesting way of looking at the world. Everything that isn’t mandated by the government is a hugely confusing dilemma. I think it says a lot about how people on that side of the debate see the general public. The replies are a mixture of hilarious and sad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 29 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: The replies... ...are self-selecting so may not be fully in tune with public opinion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 1 hour ago, The Moonster said: If you turn up together, how will they know where you live? Just do it. Folk need to start getting on with things themselves now, f**k these daft rules. Yep. Me, @RiG and another lad will be sat together at TCS on Saturday against Scumling Lolbion and we all live in different towns. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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