Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[vikingTON]

52 minutes ago, Left Back said:

So with this testing to not have to isolate is there not a flaw in it that the virus has an incubation period.  Won't a whole bunch of people be getting tested (and presumably show as negative) before the incubation period is up but subsequently go on to get the virus?

If they 'get the virus' and are symptomatic then they should self-isolate from then, get another PCR test and wait out the appropriate isolation period.

I fail to see why we're imposing so much utter chaos regarding mandatory isolation of all back of a fag packet 'close contacts', to try (and evidently fail anyway) to prevent asymptomatic spread. The vulnerable are now fully vaccinated and asymptomatic people are themselves not a burden on the NHS at all, so the underlying logic for this measure is greatly reduced.

Compared to the costs imposed on society it would be better to switch to testing people with symptoms only and using proper tests/symptom monitoring to deal with contacts. 

Edited July 7, 2021 by vikingTON

[Distant Doonhamer]

3,799 new cases of COVID-19 reported

40,842 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results

10.0% of these were positive

5 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive 

34 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 (up from 32)

387 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 (up from 346)

3,890,176 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 2,808,902 have received their second dose

Edited July 7, 2021 by Distant Doonhamer

[Michael W]

That has the hallmarks of a backlog tbh. 

Wonder if it'll be the same across the UK when the figures are published. 

[Left Back]

3 minutes ago, virginton said:

If they 'get the virus' and are symptomatic then they should self-isolate from then, get another PCR test and wait out the appropriate isolation period.

I fail to see why we're imposing so much utter chaos regarding mandatory isolation of all back of a fag packet 'close contacts', to try (and evidently fail anyway) to prevent asymptomatic spread. The vulnerable are now fully vaccinated and asymptomatic people are themselves not a burden on the NHS at all, so the underlying logic for this measure is greatly reduced.

Compared to the costs imposed on society it would be better to switch to testing people with symptoms only and using proper tests/symptom monitoring to deal with contacts. 

I was thinking about people who test negative but develop asymptomatic covid happily wandering round potentially infecting others.

It seems a blind spot to me and testing close contacts to allow them to come out of isolation may not be as effective at limiting transmission as it first seems.

At then end of the day I'm sure the experts would have factored this in and deemed it an acceptable risk.

[Distant Doonhamer]

6 minutes ago, Michael W said:

That has the hallmarks of a backlog tbh. 

Wonder if it'll be the same across the UK when the figures are published. 

I hope you are correct but there's an element of folk seeing what they want to see in these figures. 

Quite a few comments yesterday that the case numbers being down was a clear positive despite the positivity being largely the same. 

There is some evidence though that when we look at the date the positive test was performed that numbers are just beginning to plateau or decline. 

The rising hospital numbers and the recent very small increase in deaths is clearly a concern but again we need the context of comparison to the numbers from January when very few were vaccinated.

[mizfit]

It is still a drop on last weeks figures. Remember we’ve been told 1 in 3 are asymptotic. We’re definitely seeing a lot of them being picked up in these figures with LFT’s being pushed.

[Donathan]

5 minutes ago, Left Back said:

I was thinking about people who test negative but develop asymptomatic covid happily wandering round potentially infecting others.

It seems a blind spot to me and testing close contacts to allow them to come out of isolation may not be as effective at limiting transmission as it first seems.

At then end of the day I'm sure the experts would have factored this in and deemed it an acceptable risk.

Asymptomatic spread is pretty unusual.

 

Pre-symptomatic spread far more common. 

[Michael W]

4 minutes ago, Distant Doonhamer said:

I hope you are correct but there's an element of folk seeing what they want to see in these figures. 

Quite a few comments yesterday that the case numbers being down was a clear positive despite the positivity being largely the same. 

There is some evidence though that when we look at the date the positive test was performed that numbers are just beginning to plateau or decline. 

The rising hospital numbers and the recent very small increase in deaths is clearly a concern but again we need the context of comparison to the numbers from January when very few were vaccinated.

It'sa massive increase on what had been a significant drop off in the last couple of days. Maybe coincidental, but the number of cases must now be starting to affect reporting a bit. 

More worrying is the hospital number there as that's a big increase in a day. 

[D.V.T.]

I hope you are correct but there's an element of folk seeing what they want to see in these figures. 
Quite a few comments yesterday that the case numbers being down was a clear positive despite the positivity being largely the same. 
There is some evidence though that when we look at the date the positive test was performed that numbers are just beginning to plateau or decline. 
The rising hospital numbers and the recent very small increase in deaths is clearly a concern but again we need the context of comparison to the numbers from January when very few were vaccinated.

Tbf it’s better to do a 7 day comparison on cases. This figure is lower than last Wednesday’s numbers.

[superbigal]

Daily Cases Update:  Day1 of dropping cases. Down a fraction 0.13% to 424.5 per 100K. Infectivity also drops for 1st time in forever. Good news is I predict a further larger 6% drop tomorrow. We have just had a large number (3799) reported for yesterday, but even that should ensure a 3rd day of falls albeit another very small one when I update on Friday.

Even Dundee may have peaked !!!!!  Whitfield at 1607.1 still Scotland's no go area.  Hardly anyone double vaccinated as the Grannies are all about 33 years old.

New European figures today.   Scotland 424.5, England 239.3, Portugal 109.3 to 118.0, Northern Ireland 123.6, Wales 110.7, Russia 97.8 to 100.0,   Spain 76.3 to 92.9, at other end we have Poland 1.9 to 1.8, Germany 5.1 to 5.0, Italy 7.4 to 7.5, Czech 9.0 to 8.5, Switzerland 8.4 to 9.0, Sweden 14.2 to 16.0 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1139048/coronavirus-case-rates-in-the-past-7-days-in-europe-by-country/

Scotland peaks (Hopefully) at 425.1 for 27th June to 3rd July, (UK was 229.9) . Cases that day were 23,222 and positivity 10.8%

Scotland previously peaked at 301.9 for figures 29th Dec to 4th Jan, (UK was 642.1)    Cases that day were 16,496 and test positivity rate was 11.9%  

Total Cases 7 days from 28th June to 4th July  were   23,222 now 23,191  down 0.13%.  Positivity was 10.8%  now 10.7%.   Cases per 100k were  425.1 now 424.5

Home Nations Daily update  :  UK Average 229.9 to 244.3 up 6.26%, England  223.8 to 239.3 up 6.93%,  Wales 103.2 to 110.7 up 7.27%, Northern Ireland  112.9 to 123.6 up 9.48%

Council progress in last 24 Hours as follows.

Click cases by neighbourhood to see the spread on the geographical map. 
https://public.tableau.com/profile/phs.covid.19#!/vizhome/COVID-19DailyDashboard_15960160643010/Overview

 LEVEL 2 RED

Dundee City  914.1 to 903.4  1st drop in weeks.  May have peaked ?

Midlothian   761.4 to 736.5

East Lothian  607.9 to 621.0 LEVEL 1   

City Of Edinburgh  592.5 to 584.1 

Perth & Kinross    550.8 to 550.8  LEVEL 1  

West Dunbartonshire   530.8 to 518.4  LEVEL 1 

Angus  498.3 to 522.4  LEVEL 1

Renfrewshire  523.2 to 522.1

East Dunbartonshire   511.8 to 507.2

East Renfrewshire    475.2 to 496.2 

Glasgow City  493.0 to 495.5

Inverclyde  456.3 to 487.1  LEVEL 1  

Fife  479.2 to 469.8  LEVEL 1

Aberdeen City  447.8 to 450.0  LEVEL1  

East Ayrshire  430.3 to 400.8

North Lanarkshire    386.4 to 392.5

West Lothian   388.9 to 387.8   LEVEL1  

Falkirk  356.1 to 348.7  LEVEL 1

South Lanarkshire  313.9 to 317.9

North Ayrshire   267.9 to 280.5

Stirling    278.1 to 278.1

Scottish  Borders   270.1 to 277.0  LEVEL 1

Highlands  262.9 to 270.5 LEVEL 1

Clackmannanshire    246.4 to 252.2

South Ayrshire    254.9 to 247.8

OFFICIAL  LEVEL 1 BLACK

Aberdeenshire  230.1 to 220.5

Argyll & Bute    203.8 to 205.0

Dumfries & Galloway 127.0 to 127.0

Moray 80.4 to 89.8

OFFICIAL LEVEL 0  Teuchters in Green

Orkney Islands   58.4 to 62.9

 Shetland Islands   48.0 to 48.0 

Western Isles  37.4 to 37.4

Edited July 7, 2021 by superbigal

[Elixir]

Another treatment announced by the WHO, or just being publicly announced now?

 

[coprolite]

55 minutes ago, HTG said:

Absolutely. Others for our time include:

You tried your best and failed. The lesson is, never try.

And

If something's hard to do, it's not worth doing. 

Trying is the first step on the road to failure. 

[alta-pete]

53 minutes ago, HTG said:

Absolutely. Others for our time include:

You tried your best and failed. The lesson is, never try.

And

If something's hard to do, it's not worth doing. 

Listen son, you'll never find the answers to life's problems at the bottom of a glass of beer.

But then again, you'll not find them at the bottom of a glass of milk either.

And beer tastes nicer, so drink beer.

or...

This is the worst day of my life!!!

No son, this is the worst day of your life, so far...

[Distant Doonhamer]

Tbf it’s better to do a 7 day comparison on cases. This figure is lower than last Wednesday’s numbers.

Agreed.

[bendan]

48 minutes ago, Distant Doonhamer said:

 

There is some evidence though that when we look at the date the positive test was performed that numbers are just beginning to plateau or decline. 

 

If you look at the specimen dates it seems clear we peaked in the first half of last week. Today's figure is still less than last Wednesday, and the seven-day test-positivity rate is falling.

[Bairnardo]

Cases falling despite loosening, not tightening restrictions over the course of the "wave" eh. BLOW THE WHISTLE REF!!!

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

17 minutes ago, alta-pete said:

Listen son, you'll never find the answers to life's problems at the bottom of a glass of beer.

But then again, you'll not find them at the bottom of a glass of milk either.

And beer tastes nicer, so drink beer.

or...

This is the worst day of my life!!!

No son, this is the worst day of your life, so far...

You dont win friends with salad. 
 

Mr Gumble, this is a girl scout meeting. ... Or is it that you girls can't admit that you have a problem

[D Angelo Barksdale]

24 minutes ago, alta-pete said:

Listen son, you'll never find the answers to life's problems at the bottom of a glass of beer.

What if the problem is "Name a well known glass manufacturer ?"

Edited July 7, 2021 by Frank Sobotka

[betting competition]

1 hour ago, Distant Doonhamer said:

3,799 new cases of COVID-19 reported

40,842 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results

10.0% of these were positive

5 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive 

34 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 (up from 32)

387 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 (up from 346)

3,890,176 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 2,808,902 have received their second dose

On a positive 7 days ago it was 3,887 of new cases going with your figures 7 days ago  - so going down slightly 

[EdinburghPar1975]

The schools being out is bound to have had an effect even if it was just on folks mixing but it's good to see the figures hopefully dropping again.

Wonder if it'll continue to rise steeply down South with their schools still in for another few weeks?