Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[Donathan]

2 minutes ago, Michael W said:

Indoor mixing was permitted in Scotland before it was in England, which is almost certainly the highest risk setting. It is still banned in Wales unless it's with your bubble.

There have also been proportionately more cases in England than in Scotland, so immunity a factor too. I doubt vaccines account for the impact - Scotland around 1% ahead on first doses and England around 1% ahead on second doses. 

 

But that indoor mixing was in hospitality settings only and physically distanced, right?

 

Both Scotland and England allowed indoor household gatherings on the same day, 17th May, and in both cases the need for physical distancing inside homes was scrapped.

 

If anything, England’s rules are more relaxed given:

 

- Hugging is allowed in all settings, not just private homes. In England a group attending a pub together do not need to sit 1m apart, only distancing is BETWEEN the tables.

 

- Scotland allow 6 people to mix indoors but with a 3 household limit. England has the more simple rule of 6 with no differentiation on how many households are within the 6. 

[Marshmallo]

48 minutes ago, Wee Bully said:

It could be.  However, you might be in danger of introducing nuance into this echo chamber, so no point examining why it could be better, or what the increases actually mean.  

Tell us what it actually means then brother

[WeAreElgin]

I've been to Fort William a few times and assumed this had already happened.

A few times? Once you've been there for the first time there should never, ever be a reason to go back

[effeffsee_the2nd]

6 minutes ago, Donathan said:

But that indoor mixing was in hospitality settings only and physically distanced, right?

 

Both Scotland and England allowed indoor household gatherings on the same day, 17th May, and in both cases the need for physical distancing inside homes was scrapped.

 

If anything, England’s rules are more relaxed given:

 

- Hugging is allowed in all settings, not just private homes. In England a group attending a pub together do not need to sit 1m apart, only distancing is BETWEEN the tables.

 

- Scotland allow 6 people to mix indoors but with a 3 household limit. England has the more simple rule of 6 with no differentiation on how many households are within the 6. 

come on mate, who actually enforces/ adheres to the whole physical distancing rules when with people they know?

[Billy Jean King]

That's 3 parents at work had child isolation emails from T&P in S Ayrshire this week. No pattern to the area within the county, it looks pretty widespread. Two of them will miss nat 5 / higher final assessments due to it this week. What a fucking mess given that two of the kids are of an age that they are testing twice a week and have constantly been negative. The twice weekly testing is a total an utter waste of time if this is the result regardless.

[sparky88]

6 hours ago, Bob Mahelp said:

Swinney is a competent administrator 

Tell that to students piling into assembly halls to sit "exams", even though Swinney cancelled the exams last year to stop kids piling into school assembly halls. 

[David W]

4 minutes ago, sparky88 said:

Tell that to students piling into assembly halls to sit "exams", even though Swinney cancelled the exams last year to stop kids piling into school assembly halls. 

That's them giving the early May update on SQA appeals.....today. The 2nd June. Under the new education secretary.

Swinney is beyond useless.

[Billy Jean King]

Tell that to students piling into assembly halls to sit "exams", even though Swinney cancelled the exams last year to stop kids piling into school assembly halls. 

The "assessments" (exams) are not being sat under those conditions well not down here anyway. They are being sat in small group classes hence how the dark web cheating sites are so rife as they are sitting the same test but at different times which in itself is a total numb skull decision to take.

[betting competition]

1 hour ago, effeffsee_the2nd said:

• 677 new cases of COVID-19 reported
• 26,258 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results
  • 2.8% of these were positive
• 1 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive
• 10 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
• 114 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
• 3,286,261 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 2,106,177 have received their second dose

Could be better tbh

The positive news on these figures is the hospital has went down 4 from yesterday. 

[effeffsee_the2nd]

Just now, betting competition said:

The positive news on these figures is the hospital has went down 4 from yesterday. 

i believe it's went up by 6

[Melanius Mullarkey]

I see the wee Forres Fud is in self isolation.

[Have some faith in Magic]

5 minutes ago, Melanius Mullarkey said:

I see the wee Forres Fud is in self isolation.

In a hotel (at public expense no doubt). 

[Billy Jean King]

Do we know why Scotland is literally twice the UK average at the minute? It seems like a lot of pish that we're surging while the rest of the island plus the failed statelet are doing so much better. 

Given the vaccines effect on transmission highlighted by the age groups affected you can only wonder what the case numbers would be looking like without it. This most certainly feels like the start of a third wave (the graphs every bit as steep in rising new cases as in September) but hopefully it can be fought off via vaccination rather than restrictions. A bit of seasonality would have helped but the Indian mutation doesn't seem to demonstrate that trait which was prevalent in last summers variants. Hospilisation shouldn't rise so fast in this wave nor should deaths but they inevitably will rise in some form (probably mostly asymptomatic younger folk in for other issues or older folk who didn't take the offer for whatever reason). Got to hold our nerve and keep jagging but the numbers not giving a f**k certainly won't be helping no matter how tiresome it has become.

[Fife Saint]

Someone at some point in Holyrood has to smack Leitch's puss and get in the ear of Sturgeon to let her know Ol' BJ is unwittingly making a c**t of them to a significant number of moderates in this country.

[Granny Danger]

Just now, Fife Saint said:

Someone at some point in Holyrood has to smack Leitch's puss and get in the ear of Sturgeon to let her know Ol' BJ is unwittingly making a c**t of them to a significant number of moderates in this country.

Thank fúck we have politicians in Scotland who have principles and are not populist wankstains like Johnson.

[RiG]

13 minutes ago, Melanius Mullarkey said:

I see the wee Forres Fud is in self isolation.

Must be a bit awkward having to phone up and say you aren't coming in for any of your four jobs.

[betting competition]

18 minutes ago, effeffsee_the2nd said:

i believe it's went up by 6

I was looking at travellingtabby website and it said -4 but now it is updated to +8. 

[Granny Danger]

20 minutes ago, Melanius Mullarkey said:

I see the wee Forres Fud is in self isolation.

He’s wasting his time.  The last seven words in this clip explains why.

 

[TheScarf]

39 minutes ago, WeAreElgin said:

46 minutes ago, Gaz said:

I've been to Fort William a few times and assumed this had already happened.

A few times? Once you've been there for the first time there should never, ever be a reason to go back

It's also full of raging ***s (who make up about 90% of the population and are wideos into the bargain) who when they venture to Inverness for a night out end up getting absolutely bodied by the locals who refuse to take any shite off them (which I've seen happen).

[Guest]

55 minutes ago, Donathan said:

But that indoor mixing was in hospitality settings only and physically distanced, right?

 

Both Scotland and England allowed indoor household gatherings on the same day, 17th May, and in both cases the need for physical distancing inside homes was scrapped.

 

If anything, England’s rules are more relaxed given:

 

- Hugging is allowed in all settings, not just private homes. In England a group attending a pub together do not need to sit 1m apart, only distancing is BETWEEN the tables.

 

- Scotland allow 6 people to mix indoors but with a 3 household limit. England has the more simple rule of 6 with no differentiation on how many households are within the 6. 

It would appear to be an inexplicable timing issue, however over the past couple of days positivity rates in England would appear to now be on the increase and at current rates would overtake Scotland in the next 10 days or so.

As said, this is all inconsequential should the hospitalisations and deaths remain low / under control and if so should signal an end to most if not ALL restrictions.