Hedgecutter Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 18 minutes ago, WATTOO said: Yes, this is something I've noticed myself recently so basically there's no investigative journalism but just punters doing copy and paste jobs and selling it as "news". I fell victim to this relatively recently. Many papers evidently rely heavily on the 'press reader', resulting in a series of inaccuracies which are the product of a journalistic game of Chinese whispers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, Left Back said: CL final officially moved to Portugal so that fans can attend. This really should've been played in England tbh. It isn't because no agreement on broadcasters and sponsors attending from amber/red listed countries could be made as the Government wouldn't budge. I don't know how as people on Twitter assure us thousands of people are pouring through UK airports everyday unchecked and are bringing the virus in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: 6 minutes ago, Left Back said: CL final officially moved to Portugal so that fans can attend. Have Portugal finally lifted their ban on UK entrance and announced their entry rules as they hadn't up to now. Might be special dispensation for this game maybe ? Nothing I've seen but I'd assume the Portuguese authorities were consulted in all this and agreed to let fans in from the UK. They'll have had to let delegates/sponsors broadcasters in from all over the world (i.e. higher risk countries) so allowing a few thousand from the UK should be low risk. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 It's outdoors where transmission is basically non-existent, there is zero pressure on the NHS due to covid, football fans have been locked out all season and it's their first title in a decade, most of which they spent as a laughing stock. I struggle to get too excited about folk having their day outside. I'll avoid the city centre on Saturday.My take had nothing to do with public health. There is simply no need to march through the city to the main city square on a Saturday even more so when they have already celebrated in that fashion. What's wrong with celebrating in Ibrox ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Just now, Billy Jean King said: 4 minutes ago, Marshmallo said: It's outdoors where transmission is basically non-existent, there is zero pressure on the NHS due to covid, football fans have been locked out all season and it's their first title in a decade, most of which they spent as a laughing stock. I struggle to get too excited about folk having their day outside. I'll avoid the city centre on Saturday. My take had nothing to do with public health. There is simply no need to march through the city to the main city square on a Saturday even more so when they have already celebrated in that fashion. What's wrong with celebrating in Ibrox ? I don't know, I'm not head of "The Union Bears" so I wasn't involved in organising it. The whole point is they want people to be annoyed at it. We're best off ignoring it and leaving them to it. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Nothing I've seen but I'd assume the Portuguese authorities were consulted in all this and agreed to let fans in from the UK. They'll have had to let delegates/sponsors broadcasters in from all over the world (i.e. higher risk countries) so allowing a few thousand from the UK should be low risk.Need to get a move on, must be going to announce something as they can't enter as it stands. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 9 minutes ago, Wee Bully said: I think he’s totally lost the plot. I haven't seen Marshmallow pissing himself laughing at the misery of others so I'm not sure he's lost the plot quite yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 That’s an old book now... a lot has changed since it was published. The big change is that vast quantities of why you read now - especially online - is written by very inexperienced reporters almost straight out of uni with very little real supervision or editing process. The number of experienced people still working in newspapers has been decimated with overall head counts down and experienced staff understandably leaving to take far better pay and conditions working in PR and corporate comms and the like - or just leaving the profession altogether (as I did!).So it’s even worse now than in the book? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 13 minutes ago, oaksoft said: I'm not into conspiracies but this seems reasonable. We already know that most of this is being driven by behavioural advisors rather than any actual science and has been since last year when Cummings (I think) talked about it. Yeah I don't think there's any conspiracy here. They have/had a situation where they had laws/regulations that couldn't be enforced, other than closing down businesses. It's therefore reasonable to assume they've used every media tool they can think of to maximise compliance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 9 minutes ago, effeffsee_the2nd said: So it’s even worse now than in the book? By an absolute mile. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Yeah I don't think there's any conspiracy here. They have/had a situation where they had laws/regulations that couldn't be enforced, other than closing down businesses. It's therefore reasonable to assume they've used every media tool they can think of to maximise compliance.Pretty much. I think thats why some countries chose to ban outdoor exercise outright and only allowed people out for very specific reasons ( ones which could actually be challenged by police and confirmed) Not because going out for a walk spread covid but because the more exemptions you allow , the more the pish gets taken 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 270 new cases of COVID-19 reported25,093 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results1.2% of these were positive1 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive4 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 (down from 6)63 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 (down from 65)2,968,169 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 1,551,339 have received their second dose 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart87 Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 270 new cases of COVID-19 reported25,093 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results1.2% of these were positive1 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive4 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 (down from 6)63 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 (down from 65)2,968,169 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 1,551,339 have received their second dose4 folk in intensive care. This is basically over now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gav-ffc Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 10 minutes ago, Distant Doonhamer said: 270 new cases of COVID-19 reported 25,093 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results 1.2% of these were positive 1 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive 4 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 (down from 6) 63 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 (down from 65) 2,968,169 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 1,551,339 have received their second dose Right kick in the teeth for Leitch with those figures. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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superbigal Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 (edited) Daily Cases Update: The Hospital data is terrific but i will continue to post the stuff they do look at. Very poor day with cases up near 12% and infectivity climbs again to 1.3%. I do not see any way Glasgow at 70.9 is now not going to get categorized like Moray. A 155% rise in 1 week. Clacks & Midlothian next to follow. In Midlothian Pentland is running at 823 cases per 100K Scotland peaked at 301.9 for figures 29th Dec to 4th Jan, (UK was 642.1) Cases that day were 16,496 and test positivity rate was 11.9% Total Cases 7 days from 4th May to 10th May were 1391 now 1556 up 11.86%. Positivity was 1.2% now 1.3%. Cases per 100k were 25.5 now 28.5 Home Nations Daily update: UK Average 21.3 to 21.6 up 1.41%, England 21.5 to 21.8 up 1.40%, Wales 9.0 to 9.2 up 2.22%, Northern Ireland 31.6 to 31.3 down 0.95% European (Above 2 Million Population) : Sweden 340 to 331, Netherlands 290 to 301, Croatia 287 to 229, Turkey 246 to 188, France 210 to 186, Belgium 182 all destinations over 150 cases per 100K Sun worshiper areas currently are Portugal 23, Malta 26, Bulgaria 73, Spain 92, Italy 111, Greece 145, Cyprus 319 Council progress in last 24 Hours as follows. Click cases by neighbourhood to see the spread on the geographical map. https://public.tableau.com/profile/phs.covid.19#!/vizhome/COVID-19DailyDashboard_15960160643010/Overview Naughty Level 3 Councils Moray 100.2 to 98.1 Glasgow City 58.3 to 70.9 Another 21.61% rise. Pollokshields West 729 & East 695 per 100K !!!!!!!!! Clackmannanshire 46.6 to 52.4 Currently on the upwards again Under 50 Level 2 Criteria Club Midlothian 35.7 to 48.7 Were Zero cases a week ago, up another 36.41%. Pentland 823 per 100K Scotland's no go area !!! East Renfrewshire 35.6 to 39.8 North Lanarkshire 33.1 to 34.9 South Lanarkshire 26.5 to 33.7 Up 45% in 2 days East Ayrshire 31.1 to 28.7 Fife 26.5 to 28.1 North Ayrshire 25.2 to 26.7 Falkirk 26.7 to 26.1 West Lothian 21.3 to 24.6 East Dunbartonshire 22.1 to 22.1 Aberdeen City 20.6 to 21.9 South Ayrshire 16.9 to 21.3 Up 26% Stirling 17.0 to 20.2 59% rise in 2 days The Should be in Level 1 Club Sub 20.0 Renfrewshire 17.9 to 19.5 City Of Edinburgh 18.9 to 19.4 Perth & Kinross 15.1 to 19.1 Up 26% Dundee City 18.1 to 17.4 Angus 12.9 to 12.9 Aberdeenshire 11.1 to 12.6 Inverclyde 3.9 to 11.6 West Dunbartonshire 15.7 to 10.1 Highlands 7.2 to 7.6 Dumfries & Galloway 6.0 to 6.7 East Lothian 5.6 to 5.6 Scottish Borders 3.5 to 3.5 Argyll & Bute 0.0 to 0.0 Orkney Island 4.5 to 0.0 Shetland Islands 0.0 to 0.0 Western Isles 0.0 to 0.0 Edited May 13, 2021 by superbigal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Daily Cases Update: The Hospital data is terrific but i will continue to post the stuff they do look at. Very poor day with cases up near 12% and infectivity climbs again to 1.3%. I do not see any way Glasgow at 70.9 is now not going to get categorized like Moray. A 155% rise in 1 week. Clacks & Midlothian next to follow. In Midlothian Pentland is running at 823 cases per 100K Scotland peaked at 301.9 for figures 29th Dec to 4th Jan, (UK was 642.1) Cases that day were 16,496 and test positivity rate was 11.9% Total Cases 7 days from 4th May to 10th May were 1391 now 1556 up 11.86%. Positivity was 1.2% now 1.3%. Cases per 100k were 25.5 now 28.5 Home Nations Daily update: UK Average 21.3 to 21.6 up 1.41%, England 21.5 to 21.8 up 1.40%, Wales 9.0 to 9.2 up 2.22%, Northern Ireland 31.6 to 31.3 down 0.95% European (Above 2 Million Population) : Sweden 340 to 331, Netherlands 290 to 301, Croatia 287 to 229, Turkey 246 to 188, France 210 to 186, Belgium 182 all destinations over 150 cases per 100K Sun worshiper areas currently are Portugal 23, Malta 26, Bulgaria 73, Spain 92, Italy 111, Greece 145, Cyprus 319 Council progress in last 24 Hours as follows. Click cases by neighbourhood to see the spread on the geographical map. https://public.tableau.com/profile/phs.covid.19#!/vizhome/COVID-19DailyDashboard_15960160643010/Overview Naughty Level 3 Councils Moray 100.2 to 98.1 Glasgow City 58.3 to 70.9 Another 21.61% rise. Pollokshields West 729 & East 695 per 100K !!!!!!!!! Clackmannanshire 46.6 to 52.4 Currently on the upwards again Under 50 Level 2 Criteria Club Midlothian 35.7 to 48.7 Were Zero cases a week ago, up another 36.41%. Pentland 823 per 100K Scotland's no go area !!! East Renfrewshire 35.6 to 39.8 North Lanarkshire 33.1 to 34.9 South Lanarkshire 26.5 to 33.7 Up 45% in 2 days East Ayrshire 31.1 to 28.7 Fife 26.5 to 28.1 North Ayrshire 25.2 to 26.7 Falkirk 26.7 to 26.1 West Lothian 21.3 to 24.6 East Dunbartonshire 22.1 to 22.1 Aberdeen City 20.6 to 21.9 South Ayrshire 16.9 to 21.3 Up 26% Stirling 17.0 to 20.2 59% rise in 2 days The Should be in Level 1 Club Sub 20.0 Renfrewshire 17.9 to 19.5 Perth & Kinross 15.1 to 19.1 Up 26% City Of Edinburgh 18.9 to 19.4 Dundee City 18.1 to 17.4 Angus 12.9 to 12.9 Aberdeenshire 11.1 to 12.6 Inverclyde 3.9 to 11.6 West Dunbartonshire 15.7 to 10.1 Highlands 7.2 to 7.6 Dumfries & Galloway 6.0 to 6.7 East Lothian 5.6 to 5.6 Scottish Borders 3.5 to 3.5 Argyll & Bute 0.0 to 0.0 Orkney Island 4.5 to 0.0 Shetland Islands 0.0 to 0.0 Missed a few al, cmon now I don’t want you slacking off now that this is over for a second time! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 34 minutes ago, Distant Doonhamer said: 270 new cases of COVID-19 reported 25,093 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results 1.2% of these were positive 1 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive 4 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 (down from 6) 63 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 (down from 65) 2,968,169 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 1,551,339 have received their second dose That case positivity is good, because it looked like mabe it was heading upwards. And clearly, hospital numbers continue to have cigar smoke blown in their faces 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Glasgow getting held back would surely be too contentious this time round. There would be an uproar and compliance would be next to zero. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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