Detournement Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 14 hours ago, Aladdin said: An interesting article. I wonder how applicable it is to the UK where an abundance of over-caution may seem to be used to signal opposition to the tories? People have become overly entrenched in their views and have split into hand wringing third wave fetishists, free-marketeering libertarians and moon howling anti-vaxxers all shouting at each other. The amount of people who want restrictions to continue in the UK is tiny. It basically amounts to people in government and a small number of people who's hobby is being publicly ill. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Are NHS Grampian confirmed "leftists" as their spokesperson is the only one in that article even mentioning that Moray might not be ready for L2 ?Am obviously generalising mate, for somw people if boris says it’s daytime they have to say it’s night 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/whats-on/arts-and-entertainment/nicola-sturgeon-test-events-in-england-could-pave-way-for-summer-festival-crowds-to-return-in-scotland-3224477%3fampTo the suprise of erm nae c**t!What are they so scared of? Would there be a tidal wave of headlines “Fury as SNP disregard the health of scots by staging superspreader events without masks and distancing!!!”There probably would tbf but it would only be from the express and mail who do an SNP bad story every day anyway 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 32 minutes ago, Lyle Lanley said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/whats-on/arts-and-entertainment/nicola-sturgeon-test-events-in-england-could-pave-way-for-summer-festival-crowds-to-return-in-scotland-3224477%3famp What are the controversial guidelines that are to be reviewed? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lyle Lanley said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/whats-on/arts-and-entertainment/nicola-sturgeon-test-events-in-england-could-pave-way-for-summer-festival-crowds-to-return-in-scotland-3224477%3famp I think everyone can see how this is going to pan out. the 'test' events in England will more than likely be successful, restrictions down South will ease, and restrictions in Scotland will be eased in line shortly thereafter. The frustration with the SG is not that they aren't saying "yeah that will be fine, go ahead and plan that" but that they are giving nothing away to event organisers and the like about their confidence level of this happening, which places additional uncertainty into the viability of said event, and increasing the appeal of either re-locating it, or just not bothering at all. I understand why publicly 'guaranteeing' that restrictions can be binned may be counter-productive, but caveated conversations should be happening with event organisers outlining what needs to happen for their event to be allowed to run, and what confidence level they have that said scenarios will be realised according to their data projections. No-one expects a cast iron guarantee, but the "we just don't know so will give no indication whatsoever" approach isn't useful at all. There are two notable exceptions to this approach; the Euros being allowed crowds, and the "Flagship Events of International Importance" exception being added to allow relaxing of Physical Distancing (presumably with COP26 in mind). I'm not convinced if the SFA had asked for a guarantee that at least 25% capacity would be allowed for the Scottish Cup Final to be played in June or else they would move the game they would have gotten it, yet this guarantee was given to UEFA to avoid risking the loss of the games. Politics, not data nor dates would be a more realistic tagline for the approach to easing. Edited May 5, 2021 by Todd_is_God 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 I don’t even get how Moray has fucked it so bad. Consistently they had the lowest infection rates until Christmas. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, mizfit said: I don’t even get how Moray has fucked it so bad. Consistently they had the lowest infection rates until Christmas. Low natural immunity? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 8 minutes ago, mizfit said: I don’t even get how Moray has fucked it so bad. Consistently they had the lowest infection rates until Christmas. Must have loads of speakeasy and shebeen type nail bars 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladdin Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 14 minutes ago, mizfit said: I don’t even get how Moray has fucked it so bad. Consistently they had the lowest infection rates until Christmas. They havent necessarily. Given Moray apparently has a population of only 95,000, a localised outbreak can have a massive effect on their rate per 100,000. Given the lower population density, you would hope it could be nipped in the bud quite quickly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 I think everyone can see how this is going to pan out. the 'test' events in England will more than likely be successful, restrictions down South will ease, and restrictions in Scotland will be eased in line shortly thereafter. The frustration with the SG is not that they aren't saying "yeah that will be fine, go ahead and plan that" but that they are giving nothing away to event organisers and the like about their confidence level of this happening, which places additional uncertainty into the viability of said event, and increasing the appeal of either re-locating it, or just not bothering at all. I understand why publicly 'guaranteeing' that restrictions can be binned may be counter-productive, but caveated conversations should be happening with event organisers outlining what needs to happen for their event to be allowed to run, and what confidence level they have that said scenarios will be realised according to their data projections. No-one expects a cast iron guarantee, but the "we just don't know so will give no indication whatsoever" approach isn't useful at all. There are two notable exceptions to this approach; the Euros being allowed crowds, and the "Flagship Events of International Importance" exception being added to allow relaxing of Physical Distancing (presumably with COP26 in mind). I'm not convinced if the SFA had asked for a guarantee that at least 25% capacity would be allowed for the Scottish Cup Final to be played in June or else they would move the game they would have gotten it, yet this guarantee was given to UEFA to avoid risking the loss of the games. Politics, not data nor dates would be a more realistic tagline for the approach to easing.https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/19279549.live-updates-brighton-pride-cancelled-second-year/Test events alone are not enough to stop big events much later in the summer being cancelled now. Lack of affordable Covid insurance for big events is starting to become an issue to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMCs Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Detournement said: The amount of people who want restrictions to continue in the UK is tiny. It basically amounts to people in government and a small number of people who's hobby is being publicly ill. That's not true at all. One thing the polls show is that British people are often quite pro-restrictions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven W Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 1 hour ago, oaksoft said: The language is being softened which is a good thing. She's also showing signs that continued pressure is having the desired effect. It's just a shame that this is all having to be crow-barred out of her. I agree - its good to finally see the language softening, but as Todd points out, these industries are needing something a bit more concrete. One other thing - its hardly a great advert for indepence where you're unashamedly looking to England for carrying out these experiments. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 More doom and gloom on certain MSM sites. One saying a third wave here is “inevitable”. Also talk about extra cash to target new variants. Boosters also available from Sept. it’s going to be a never ending cycle of boosters, hopefully just for the elderly/vulnerable and not needed for everyone 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said: More doom and gloom on certain MSM sites. One saying a third wave here is “inevitable”. Also talk about extra cash to target new variants. Boosters also available from Sept. it’s going to be a never ending cycle of boosters, hopefully just for the elderly/vulnerable and not needed for everyone Have you tried not reading this shite? For a while now I have routinely ignored every news bulletin, tried my best to avoid covid articles and generally only pop on here to see the updated figures. The vaccines are doing their job and everything will be gone soon, the hot air in the media is now best ignored. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbigal Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 2 hours ago, mizfit said: I don’t even get how Moray has fucked it so bad. Consistently they had the lowest infection rates until Christmas. Toe sucking hookers ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 (edited) 85* new cases of COVID-19 reported 11,273* new tests for COVID-19 that reported results 0.8%* of these were positive 0 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive 13 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 ( up from11 ) 69 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 (up from 58) 2,846,834 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 1,373,882 have received their second dose * Please note that Public Health Scotland are aware of data flow issues from UK Government testing sites since around 3pm on Tuesday 4 May that are currently being investigated. These data flow issues could be contributing to the lower number of cases reported today, however, it is not yet possible to know this for certain until this issue is resolved. Edited May 5, 2021 by Distant Doonhamer 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 26 minutes ago, The Moonster said: Have you tried not reading this shite? For a while now I have routinely ignored every news bulletin, tried my best to avoid covid articles and generally only pop on here to see the updated figures. The vaccines are doing their job and everything will be gone soon, the hot air in the media is now best ignored. Its just an attempt to get newspaper sales and ad revenue when they post that stuff now. There’s even government advisor scientists and relative models showing they anticipate no third wave now. Utter shite from the scumbag media perpetuating their fear mongering. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider Rico Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 “Independent SAGE” now essentially releasing their own political campaign videos on their Twitter account. The very definition of “scrambling for relevance” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNU_Linux Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 23 minutes ago, superbigal said: Toe sucking hookers ? Foot in mouth disease? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest_Man#1 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 12 minutes ago, Distant Doonhamer said: 85* new cases of COVID-19 reported 11,273* new tests for COVID-19 that reported results 0.8%* of these were positive 0 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive 13 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 ( up from11 ) 69 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 (up from 58) 2,846,834 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 1,373,882 have received their second dose * Please note that Public Health Scotland are aware of data flow issues from UK Government testing sites since around 3pm on Tuesday 4 May that are currently being investigated. These data flow issues could be contributing to the lower number of cases reported today, however, it is not yet possible to know this for certain until this issue is resolved. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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