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1 minute ago, craigkillie said:


But it's just a list of dates for easing stuff, they don't need to attach numbers to it, especially when they're picking and choosing parts to change on their own like they did today.

I guess having numbers makes it easier to change an area again if they have to, ie if somewhere gets moved back up they just say you’re in level one rather than listing everything that’s permitted. Which obviously hopefully will not happen anyway. 

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Level 0 isn't the maximum amount of opening up possible - Sturgeon originally said something like "at least Level 0" by June when she outlined the roadmap a few weeks ago.
Surely they have set the precedent of at least 25% of capacity by mid-June with what's happening at Hampden.

There's also no reference to a stadiums capacity in there, for example 2,000 folk at Forthbank is markedly different to 2,000 at Easter Road. I'd expect there to be further, separate crowd rules for sports stadiums come July.
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See in Boris roadmap when it says, all legal restrictions on social contact removed.... What does that actually mean then?


f**k who you want, when you want.

Or that’s how he’ll interpret it.
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12 minutes ago, super_carson said:

Surely they have set the precedent of at least 25% of capacity by mid-June with what's happening at Hampden.

There's also no reference to a stadiums capacity in there, for example 2,000 folk at Forthbank is markedly different to 2,000 at Easter Road. I'd expect there to be further, separate crowd rules for sports stadiums come July.

They can genuinely go take a f**k to themselves if thats the case in July, legal challenges galore.

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1 minute ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

They can genuinely go take a f**k to themselves if thats the case in July, legal challenges galore.

Said this a week or two ago, and was widely dismissed as "doom and gloom nonsense".

These Hampden games are a 'wee treat' for us, and once they're out the road normal service will resume.

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Just now, Steven W said:

Said this a week or two ago, and was widely dismissed as "doom and gloom nonsense".

These Hampden games are a 'wee treat' for us, and once they're out the road normal service will resume.

The folks celebrating the 25% pish are the same types who think we should have lockdown forever just because. 
There is absolutely no reason that you can have 200 people in a function hall for a wedding with zero ventilation etc and tell us that we can’t have normal attendances at football. 
There has to come a point where we all get together as football fans and challenge their scaremongering shite. 

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They can genuinely go take a f**k to themselves if thats the case in July, legal challenges galore.
Well that's what I suspect may happen if hospitalisations, deaths and (to lesser extent) cases stay low. They may find it harder to justify restrictions if that continues to be the case.

Of course, that may be the plan. Hold off making any commitments on things just now and see how it looks come summer. That's pretty much consistent with the approach so far.
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3 minutes ago, Steven W said:

Said this a week or two ago, and was widely dismissed as "doom and gloom nonsense".

These Hampden games are a 'wee treat' for us, and once they're out the road normal service will resume.

I hope all clubs in Scotland start legal challenges if they can’t let a majority of fans back in stadiums come next season. 

There’s no reason why clubs like Elgin, Arbroath, East Fife, Dumbarton etc can’t have fans in while 50 people can go to a church inside or if you can travel across the country. 
 

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2 minutes ago, super_carson said:

Well that's what I suspect may happen if hospitalisations, deaths and (to lesser extent) cases stay low. They may find it harder to justify restrictions if that continues to be the case.

Of course, that may be the plan. Hold off making any commitments on things just now and see how it looks come summer. That's pretty much consistent with the approach so far.

How can clubs plan for that? Its absolute madness. 

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34 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

See in Boris roadmap when it says, all legal restrictions on social contact removed.... What does that actually mean then?

I read it as:

- No legal limit on the number of people you can socialise with indoors or outdoors

- No legal requirement to remain physically distant from others

It also said

"Restrictions on large events lifted"

Which I read as:

- Large events can happen

What I didn't read from it was that there would not be a maximum gathering size permitted, so would expect stadiums etc to have limited capacities, at least initially.

I don't think I've seen or read anything so far that has caused me to re-think any of the above.

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2 minutes ago, Lyle Lanley said:

I hope all clubs in Scotland start legal challenges if they can’t let a majority of fans back in stadiums come next season. 

There’s no reason why clubs like Elgin, Arbroath, East Fife, Dumbarton etc can’t have fans in while 50 people can go to a church inside or if you can travel across the country. 
 

The way we're going, 50 fans will be a dream crowd next season.

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Calling it "Level Zero Restrictions" when it didn't mean "zero" was dumb last October. It's even more dumb now as we are clearly going to get there fairly soon, and it then leaves the SG in a position where they have no room for manoeuvre.

They can't keep "Level Zero" in place indefinitely, and "Level Minus One" sounds absolutely ridiculous.

They have backed themselves into a corner where they will either have to lift every remaining restriction in place at the same time (something which I don't imagine they will want to do), and keep pointless restrictions in place for far longer than necessary because they aren't quite ready to remove them all.

A completely obvious and easily avoidable situation. with a bit of foresight.

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