dirty dingus Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 16 minutes ago, Honest_Man#1 said: 750% markup, aye sounds fair. The problem is it's going to be a neccesity for the foreseeable future for getting abroad. I suppose it's far better than the current 7500% mark up. Think most folk would bite your hand off if they only had to pay £30 to access holidays again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbaxters Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Michael W said: This is exactly my biggest issue with the whole thing. Why are we continuing to treat vaccinated people as if they are not vaccinated or that we don't have proven effective vaccines? It's really starting to anger me. How many studies showing the effectiveness of the vaccines do we need before we acknowledge that they are working, have turned the ride against Covid in terms of cases and are saving lives? And further to that, if they don't work then what? Airlines grounded permanently and have face masks stitched on to new borns? Edited April 9, 2021 by jimbaxters 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, jimbaxters said: And further to that, if they don't work then what? Airlines grounded permanently and have face masks stitched on to new borns? Indeed. If they weren't working we would also be starting to see evidence of it, but we aren't. The whole thing is rage inducing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 12 minutes ago, Michael W said: This is exactly my biggest issue with the whole thing. Why are we continuing to treat vaccinated people as if they are not vaccinated or that we don't have proven effective vaccines? It's really starting to anger me. How many studies showing the effectiveness of the vaccines do we need before we acknowledge that they are working, have turned the ride against Covid in terms of cases and are saving lives? Because VARIANTS and WE JUST DON'T KNOW!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven W Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 1 hour ago, BigDoddyKane said: Whats the deal if you are flying into Scotland from a Green country for a visit? You get burned at the stake upon touchdown. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulysses Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Myself and the Mrs are meant to be going away on our honeymoon in July, so I'm feeling extra depressed this morning with all this talk. We're under 30 so there's no chance of us being fully vaccinated by then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 23 minutes ago, dirty dingus said: The problem is it's going to be a neccesity for the foreseeable future for getting abroad. I suppose it's far better than the current 7500% mark up. Think most folk would bite your hand off if they only had to pay £30 to access holidays again. They won't be a necessity if countries adjust their policies based on vaccine rollout. If testing is binned as an entry requirement from the UK then it makes no sense for the UK Government to require one before departure. It will most likely be reciprocal/a broadly mirrored set of distinctions between countries. It's still the first week of April, and this time last year we had just recently entered an indefinite lockdown. Ten weeks later though, foreign travel was possible without vaccines or indeed mandatory testing. There's going to be a lot of changes between now and the summer, not least given the impact it would have on economies like Greece, Cyprus, Portugal etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 I get the government wanting people tested on arrival. why do they actually care if you get tested before departing this country? The destination country of course will care and may well have their own requirements. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.V.T. Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Jet2 have suspended flights and holidays until 23 June 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Wales accelerating their release of lockdown. Not much but better than nothing. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-56680593 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherchance Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 44 minutes ago, Michael W said: This is exactly my biggest issue with the whole thing. Why are we continuing to treat vaccinated people as if they are not vaccinated or that we don't have proven effective vaccines? It's really starting to anger me. How many studies showing the effectiveness of the vaccines do we need before we acknowledge that they are working, have turned the ride against Covid in terms of cases and are saving lives? Playing down the impact of the vaccines (which is what's happening here) is something right out of the anti vaxxers playbook and will only increase vaccine hesitancy, Also, anyone pointing at Chile instead of talking up the Israel stats is an absolute adult nappy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 9 minutes ago, virginton said: They won't be a necessity if countries adjust their policies based on vaccine rollout. If testing is binned as an entry requirement from the UK then it makes no sense for the UK Government to require one before departure. It will most likely be reciprocal/a broadly mirrored set of distinctions between countries. It's still the first week of April, and this time last year we had just recently entered an indefinite lockdown. Ten weeks later though, foreign travel was possible without vaccines or indeed mandatory testing. There's going to be a lot of changes between now and the summer, not least given the impact it would have on economies like Greece, Cyprus, Portugal etc. Yeah I'm hoping this caution on travel is mainly a stalling tactic till most adults are dosed up. They don't want the general population going bonkers if they are stuck at home looking at facebook posts of all the blue rinsers lying wasted on the beaches round the med. Thailand have announced their roadmap for travel and it sounds shit. https://www.businesstraveller.com/business-travel/2021/04/07/thailand-announces-roadmap-to-reopen-select-destinations-for-vaccinated-tourists/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Aldo Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Playing down the impact of the vaccines (which is what's happening here) is something right out of the anti vaxxers playbook and will only increase vaccine hesitancy, Also, anyone pointing at Chile instead of talking up the Israel stats is an absolute adult nappy.Nicola Sturgeon tweeted about Chile the other day. I haven't seen her mention Israel once. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted April 9, 2021 Author Share Posted April 9, 2021 One thing about the pandemic that I’ve seen written is that it might improve anxiety because something terrible has happened and most of us got through it. On the other hand perhaps it’s encouraged catastrophising, as demonstrated in teeets like this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Tbf people in their early 20s should be out having fun regularly and they have pretty much been locked up for 12 months now. It's tragic for them. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKMAN Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 The scenes at Glasgow green last Saturday, would suggest that young people are very much out having fun. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 1 minute ago, MONKMAN said: The scenes at Glasgow green last Saturday, would suggest that young people are very much out having fun. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latapythelegend Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 11 minutes ago, ICTChris said: One thing about the pandemic that I’ve seen written is that it might improve anxiety because something terrible has happened and most of us got through it. On the other hand perhaps it’s encouraged catastrophising, as demonstrated in teeets like this Christ, get folk like that in the (rising) sea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillonearth Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 18 minutes ago, ICTChris said: One thing about the pandemic that I’ve seen written is that it might improve anxiety because something terrible has happened and most of us got through it. On the other hand perhaps it’s encouraged catastrophising, as demonstrated in teeets like this Not to mention the chances of her losing her forties to a nuclear war and her fifties to a sentence on a Chinese lunar gulag. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Jagged this morning with AZ. It's been good knowing you all....... 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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