Left Back Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 Just now, Rugster said: By the way how often are the uk government late for their own briefings!? were waiting to see what the EMA said imo. Probably had two briefings ready to go. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 EMA say it's safe but leaving it up to the member states what they decide to do. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 Looks like it's getting this latest scare kicked into touch thankfully. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 West Dunbartonshire cases absolutely tanking it down, even below the posh c***s in the East. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 UK ditching AZ for under 30s dearie me !!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 We seem to be shitting the bed here a bit. Wonder what this will do to the rollout timetable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Billy Jean King said: UK ditching AZ for under 30s dearie me !!! where you seeing this? BBC News still on the EMA briefing so I assumed the UK one hadn't started yet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 BBC reporting the above. Saying it will push the rollout back "by a few weeks" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 BBC reporting the above. Saying it will push the rollout back "by a few weeks"Sorry Sky not BBC 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 Just now, Billy Jean King said: We seem to be shitting the bed here a bit. Wonder what this will do to the rollout timetable. Seen an article before saying if was ditched for under 50s it would have a huge effect. Other than that I doubt its significant really. Just prioritise Pfizer/Moderna/J&J/Novavax for U30s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP_MFC Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 I'd guess nothing. The under 30s without health conditions were always prime candidates for Jannsen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 Seen an article before saying if was ditched for under 50s it would have a huge effect. Other than that I doubt its significant really. Just prioritise Pfizer/Moderna/J&J/Novavax for U30s. It's bound to massively ramp up scepticism re AZ in general though, anti vaxxers dream ticket unfortunately. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 14 minutes ago, Rugster said: Benefits of AZ outweigh risks says EMA. Blood clot is possible side effect. Wonder why it stopped being called the Oxford vaccine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 I'd guess nothing. The under 30s without health conditions were always prime candidates for Jannsen. Telegraph reported over the weekend this may well have been the plan anyway, for a range of reasons - younger people are more likely to be vaccine hesitant/unable to get out of work to get a vaccine so a one-doser is more appealing, it prevents longer-term discrimination about being ‘fully’ vaccinated as it’d be well into October before second doses began, and it would allow health services to focus on boosters for oldies come autumn rather than second doses for the young. Of course that story may well have been planted there ahead of this announcement... It isn’t great news regardless, and suspect it’ll be a big blow to under 40s especially taking the vaccine. The line needs drawn somewhere but if you’re 30 or 31 and on the fence anyway, being told if you were six months younger it’d be potentially unsafe isn’t going to help you decide to take it. Definitely a blow. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest_Fifer Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 Now on BBChttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56665517 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56665517 There it is. 79 cases and 19 deaths in the UK. More than was originally publicised - fuel to the fire of anti-vaxxers, that. At least there's the J&J vaccine on the horizon. Saying that, I'm 31 - do I honestly believe the vaccine is fine for me, but would've been too risky if I were a couple of years younger? Absolutely not. This is going to prompt a wave of vaccine hesitancy, unfortunately. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sherrif John Bunnell Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 Surely some mistake? We were told the Oxford vaccine disrespect was all down an evil ploy by a bitter Merkel and Macron to get one over the plucky Brits. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Bairnardo said: Seen an article before saying if was ditched for under 50s it would have a huge effect. Other than that I doubt its significant really. Just prioritise Pfizer/Moderna/J&J/Novavax for U30s. Thjat was my immediate thought. The ponly group to fall into the Venn overlap here will be uinder 30s in the CV groups, surely? And won't most of them have had both doses by now? This seems to me to be a real scare-story, in all honesty. I take eight separate drugs a day to keep me functioning properly. Each an every one has a list of side effects which extend on occasion onto the other side of the leaflet. I honestly couldn't tell you how bad they could get, but I'll just check google for a couple of them.. headaches or dizziness. nausea. diarrhoea or constipation. indigestion (dyspepsia) stomach ache or abdominal pain. nosebleeds. increased bleeding (your blood taking longer to clot – for example, when you cut yourself), or easy bruising. Hmm.. that's not too bad. What about the wee green ones? Low blood pressure. This is more common when you’re starting the drug or increasing doses. Symptoms include: dizziness lightheadedness Allergic or hypersensitivity reaction (angioedema). Symptoms include: swelling of your face, lips, tongue, or throat trouble breathing stomach pain with or without nausea and vomiting Liver problems (jaundice). Symptoms include: yellowing of your skin or the whites of your eyes stomach pain fatigue Swelling (edema). Symptoms include: swelling of your feet, legs, or hands Low white blood cell count. Symptoms include: sore throat fever Purple spot on your skin caused by internal bleeding (purpura) Fast or abnormal heart rate or palpitations. Symptoms include: feeling like your heart is fluttering High potassium levels. Symptoms include: weakness arrhythmia (irregular heart rate) Worse kidney function. Symptoms include: nausea and vomiting decreased urine output when urinating fatigue loss of appetite Fúck me, I reckon I'll stop there. Still taking the drugs, mind. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP_MFC Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 The EU have further fucked it then. Basically the MHRA is saying no under 30s out of caution but it won't really impact us due to how good the rollout has been with it so far.The EMA won't specifically ban it because they know they need it to catch up but they've absolutely humped it with the EU public from day one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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