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3 minutes ago, The Moonster said:

What's the issue with AZ vaccine here? I've ignored most of the greeting about it not being suitable as I thought that was mostly political bullshit but it's worrying if this is actually going to set us back months.

Hopefully they are getting all of the right people in the room to present results saying its safe and effective and try to put a stop to all the speculation. They surely must have realised by now it will harm uptake. 

Either that or potentially an announcement about certain age groups. Certainly would be a disaster in the UK if they stop its use altogether

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4 minutes ago, The Moonster said:

What's the issue with AZ vaccine here? I've ignored most of the greeting about it not being suitable as I thought that was mostly political bullshit but it's worrying if this is actually going to set us back months.

There's been 30 reported blood clots from the 18m doses administered in the UK, of which 7 have resulted in death. There's concern that these are being seen in younger age groups and the vaccine is causing them. 

There appears to be a correlation with people who have reduced levels of platelets in their blood. 

Notably neither the UK nor the EU is suspending the contraceptive pill, which has a much higher incidence of blood clots. 

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Just now, Left Back said:

Potentially causes rare blood clots, in a miniscule amount of people.

Ah, it's just that? I thought maybe more had been discovered. Surely stopping use of this for under 40's would be ridiculous on that basis? I'd be quite happy to take my 1 in 2.5 million chance of getting a blood clot with the vaccine tbh.

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1 minute ago, Michael W said:

There's been 30 reported blood clots from the 18m doses administered in the UK, of which 7 have resulted in death. There's concern that these are being seen in younger age groups and the vaccine is causing them. 

There appears to be a correlation with people who have reduced levels of platelets in their blood. 

Notably neither the UK nor the EU is suspending the contraceptive pill, which has a much higher incidence of blood clots. 

Scenes if they announce the suspension of the contraceptive pill.

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Hopefully they are getting all of the right people in the room to present results saying its safe and effective and try to put a stop to all the speculation. They surely must have realised by now it will harm uptake. 
Either that or potentially an announcement about certain age groups. Certainly would be a disaster in the UK if they stop its use altogether
BBC saying the risks from Covid at 40+ make AZ still the preferred option but it's not so cut and dried the lower down the age groups you fall as their risk of dying from Covid are many many times more minuscule so depending on the calculated risk from this very rare side effect it might become an issue.
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6 minutes ago, Michael W said:

There's been 30 reported blood clots from the 18m doses administered in the UK, of which 7 have resulted in death. There's concern that these are being seen in younger age groups and the vaccine is causing them. 

There appears to be a correlation with people who have reduced levels of platelets in their blood. 

Notably neither the UK nor the EU is suspending the contraceptive pill, which has a much higher incidence of blood clots. 

If a low platelet count is what causes the issues, is it possible to carry out a blood test prior to vaccination that could confirm if you were at risk, or is that not very practical?

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Possibly judged that if you're under 40 (or whatever age cut off) you're more likely to die from an AZ vaccine induced blood clot than from Covid itself.

I mean this in itself should actually re-focus governments thinking that once the vulnerable cohorts are done then we need to bin restrictions asap and it's not really a big deal if people under 40 and without underlying health conditions arent vaccinated.

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2 minutes ago, Rob1885 said:

Possibly judged that if you're under 40 (or whatever age cut off) you're more likely to die from an AZ vaccine induced blood clot than from Covid itself.

I mean this in itself should actually re-focus governments thinking that once the vulnerable cohorts are done then we need to bin restrictions asap and it's not really a big deal if people under 40 and without underlying health conditions arent vaccinated.

I’m only a couple of months over 40 and got my first dose of Oxford AZ a couple of weeks ago. Should I be feart o’ the reaper?

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1 minute ago, 8MileBU said:

I’m only a couple of months over 40 and got my first dose of Oxford AZ a couple of weeks ago. Should I be feart o’ the reaper?

Condolences to the wife, kids, family etc.

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1 hour ago, Honest_Man#1 said:

And how many of the (very low) number of members of the public wearing N95, FFP2, FFP3 masks had been accurately face fitted for those masks? And were then disposing of them at appropriate intervals and being re-facefitted for the next ones they put on?

The answer is effectively zero btw, making their use, and your hilariously arrogant mewling post above, utterly redundant.

You don't necessarily have to have these face-fitted. Certainly based on the Respiratory training I've had, it is typically for powered respirators and either full/half face masks (i.e not your typilca mask held on by elastic band).

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13 minutes ago, Pato said:

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Classic case of flag shagging jingoistic can't countitis 😂 the War ended 76 years ago, meaning you'd need to have been born no later than 1928 to (legally) have signed up.

The vast majority of WW2 vets are 93+ and i severely doubt the vast majority of over 80s are over 93.

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3 minutes ago, Left Back said:

I assume because they correlate it with rationing ending in 1954.

Aye probably is.  It's pretty funny seeing some 65 year old talking on Twitter talking about the Blitz spirit that ended 9 years before they existed.

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