Todd_is_God Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, ICTChris said: The technology used for the some of the Covid 19vaccines could be used to develop a vaccine for HIV. Initial trials report good response rates, up to 97% of phase 1 trial participants generate antibodies. https://www.europeanpharmaceuticalreview.com/news/141892/novel-hiv-vaccine-approach-shows-promise-in-landmark-first-in-human-trial/ One of the biggest tragedies of this whole debacle will be if the constant refusal to put faith in the vaccines leads to a significant delay in vaccines being developed for the likes of HIV and any other devastating diseases (I don't know if the likes of Parkinson's, MND etc could benefit in some way too). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 19 minutes ago, ICTChris said: The technology used for the some of the Covid 19vaccines could be used to develop a vaccine for HIV. Initial trials report good response rates, up to 97% of phase 1 trial participants generate antibodies. https://www.europeanpharmaceuticalreview.com/news/141892/novel-hiv-vaccine-approach-shows-promise-in-landmark-first-in-human-trial/ You do wonder how long it would've taken for the RNA technology to be deployed had Covid not necessitated it. Looks like it has the potential to be be a complete game changer. Sounds very promising. The clinical trials will likely be an ethical nightmare, but it's early stages yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 You know it's grim when the Heil goes with this sort of headline. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted April 6, 2021 Author Share Posted April 6, 2021 19 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: One of the biggest tragedies of this whole debacle will be if the constant refusal to put faith in the vaccines leads to a significant delay in vaccines being developed for the likes of HIV and any other devastating diseases (I don't know if the likes of Parkinson's, MND etc could benefit in some way too). It’s going to have the opposite affect. The rapid development of vaccine technology could offer breakthroughs in vaccines for other viruses. HIV is a very odd virus though. When it was first isolated in 1984 they thought they’d have a vaccine for it in a couple of years but clearly that didn’t work. Anyway, saw this about the modelling of some of the independent SAGE group. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, ICTChris said: Anyway, saw this about the modelling of some of the independent SAGE group. The models SAGE are using to predict summer resurgances are apparently still riddled with the same outdated / wrong data they were using in January / February. Namely that the efficacy is 80% rather than the more recent studies showing them to be close to 100% effective at preventing hospitalisation, and a very conservative estimate of uptake. I don't know whether it is an ego thing or something else, but they really don't seem to want to stop predicting wave after wave. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 Again, we are at the point where the government have a road map that they seemingly intend to stick to, and we have sage jumping up and down in the background firing out these predictions to the public domain, and the papers spinning the life out of them....What the f**k is going on man. Why can't these c***s just stay in the background and accept that their advice has been received by the policy setters, and factored into the final decisions? Its bad enough with the media completely losing the run of themselves but its happening at all levels with the left hand not even knowing there is a right hand never mind what its doing. Genuinely hope we never have to fight a war, or face a pandemic that has a death rate that runs to 4 or 5%, or an energy crisis, or..... well basically anything that requires a semblance of genuine organisation. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alert Mongoose Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 56 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: One of the biggest tragedies of this whole debacle will be if the constant refusal to put faith in the vaccines leads to a significant delay in vaccines being developed for the likes of HIV and any other devastating diseases (I don't know if the likes of Parkinson's, MND etc could benefit in some way too). I’m still hopeful on Type One diabetes considering the relationship between the two. There should be some stuff to work on there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 1 hour ago, ICTChris said: The technology used for the some of the Covid 19vaccines could be used to develop a vaccine for HIV. Initial trials report good response rates, up to 97% of phase 1 trial participants generate antibodies. https://www.europeanpharmaceuticalreview.com/news/141892/novel-hiv-vaccine-approach-shows-promise-in-landmark-first-in-human-trial/ Don't Cuba already have a fairly effective HIV vaccine? I know it's not big pharma but hardly news if it already exists. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 2 hours ago, ICTChris said: Sturgeon said that she doesn’t like it but she’ll have to go along with it. Normally I would say that this is the usual making excuses for Sturgeon being shite but Boris does actually have the air of a man with a gun to head on this issue. It's basically impossible for Johnson or Sturgeon to stand up to the WEF. It's like asking a dug to play the piano. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Michael W said: Freeman will be no more a month's time anyway, so realistically can say whatever she wants on the matter. That's why she is being wheeled out to say this. No one standing in the election wants to take responsibility for it. (Like care homes and the NHS for the past 7 months). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 11 hours ago, ICTChris said: The big issue with that surely is that it assumes that everyone is taking the test correctly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladdin Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Detournement said: The big issue with that surely is that it assumes that everyone is taking the test correctly. The lateral flow tests I have seen, and used, give an option for an invalid test result, which, you would hope, would prompt people to do it again until they got a positive or negative. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 9 hours ago, Thereisalight.. said: Both Governments have hardly covered themselves in glory. I’d gain a whole load of respect for NS if she was to come out and say that domestic vaccine passports are a crock of shit and we won’t be implementing them, but I fear we’d go along with it Tbf, the SNP usually go for utter bollocks policies like this. 2 hours ago, ICTChris said: Sturgeon said that she doesn’t like it but she’ll have to go along with it. Where did she say this? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 Meanwhile, another behind the curve loser who needs their head bogwashed in the school lavvies: Quote Posted at 9:46 Effect of vaccines on transmission still not fully known - scientist As we've reported, government scientific advisers have warned that eventual indoor mixing is "highly likely" to lead to a resurgence in hospitalisations and deaths in the UK. Asked about the predictions of a third wave, Prof Graham Medley, a member of the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies, told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: "It really just depends upon the impact of vaccination, particularly on transmission, so whether or not people can get infected and pass the virus on. And we just don't know that." He said it was still unclear what effect the vaccine rollout would have on the course of the pandemic in three or four months' time. "The only thing we can be sure of is that we don't know exactly what is going to happen - but we do know that, because the vaccine isn't 100% effective, there will be some transmission, and there will be some breakthrough of immunity." Asked if mask-wearing and social distancing would have to continue past the end of 21 June, he said: "Yes, so the amount of infection and death is dependent upon not only the vaccine, but also what it is that people actually do. "And then that's related to the policies that are put in place. "Both of those are uncertain - both the policies but also then how people behave with the policies - so it's quite likely that we will have to see some kind of measures to reduce transmission for a long time." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibsFan Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, Elixir said: Where did she say this? Unless you're double wooshing me, it's a quote from The Day Today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 6 minutes ago, Elixir said: Where did she say this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibsFan Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 7 minutes ago, Melanius Mullarkey said: You can have MonDieu's excellently cropped version instead if you want. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 18 minutes ago, Elixir said: Where did she say this? @ICTChris, you've lost the news! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.V.T. Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 Where did she say this?I heard she said it in German. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Have some faith in Magic Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, D.V.T. said: I heard she said it in German. Nein Impstoff Nein Fest 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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