HeartsOfficialMoaner Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 1 minute ago, ayrmad said: This is not about criticising this is about folk running to the worst case scenario every time, personally I don't see it being as disastrous as some on here. Yep. There are a lot of people worrying about what might happen in 3 - 6 months time and it might not even happen. Some people feel they are being fed fear and then they go and spread the same fear themselves. Others moan about people moaning. It's all a good laugh. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 21 minutes ago, 10menwent2mow said: The wet led pub was already in pretty serious decline but they will be completely wiped out if restrictions such as Social Distancing remain in place for much longer. My local was down to a capacity of 26 with the last set of restrictions, it's got some pretty hardened drinkers who will quite happily neck 3 pints in an hour so was still managing to turn a profit before finally being forced to close when the absurd restriction of having to eat came in before you could get a pint. Places like that will be fucked. The sad thing is that you get the feeling that NS and the government would be extremely happy if the pubs where folk just go for a pint were closed indefinitely and all that was left were Hungry Horse, family friendly type places. In the same way that they would be quite happy if football and its fans became completely sanitised to the point of noone ever saying f**k inside a fitba ground. He's a very naughty man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latapythelegend Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 27 minutes ago, Have some faith in Magic said: I demand to know who these people are. Vaccine passport to go and try on a pair of fucking jeans. Its quite absurd but I don't see how it could be any inconvenience to anybody. If I had to carry a wee card or have a QR code or whatever to ensure I could get back to doing things I haven't done in 12 months then I'm more than happy to do it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 1 minute ago, latapythelegend said: Its quite absurd but I don't see how it could be any inconvenience to anybody. If I had to carry a wee card or have a QR code or whatever to ensure I could get back to doing things I haven't done in 12 months then I'm more than happy to do it. It would be quite inconvenient if you didn't have a passport. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 1 minute ago, latapythelegend said: Its quite absurd but I don't see how it could be any inconvenience to anybody. If I had to carry a wee card or have a QR code or whatever to ensure I could get back to doing things I haven't done in 12 months then I'm more than happy to do it. A lot of people object to national ID cards as they think the government are spying on them (or various other bits of hysterical nonsense) by forcing you to carry one. I can only imagine the reaction to this if it was proposed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 9 hours ago, Michael W said: " No vaccine programme is 100% effective". Jesus fucking Christ, man. Going to need Thomas Sankara to rise from his grave and hold some Popular Revolutionary Tribunals for anyone making a statement like this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 A lot of people object to national ID cards as they think the government are spying on them (or various other bits of hysterical nonsense) by forcing you to carry one. I can only imagine the reaction to this if it was proposed. It's really about what the government have a right to compel you to do tbh, in the case of vaccine passports, what information about your health you are compelled to prove to be allowed into a cinema or such like, aswell as how associated date is gathered and used. Many would see it as the thin end of the wedge and I would be inclined to agree, especially given the UK governments shenanigans around test and trace. The simple question is, can they be trusted to implement it in a fair end transparent way, only used for its sole stated purpose, and with bulletproof privacy. I fail to see how anyone could ever answer yes to that. Is it that hard to envisage a situation where covid is gone, but the govt decide that we all must still carry a wee geolocation enabled card or whatever it is. Honestly, I know how that sounds but think about it in context of the last year and the coming g year. Can you not envisage that idea being bled out to the media a few months after implementation? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Snafu said: It's not that funny, it's not when you can read from what people are saying and how they are posting that some are struggling right now and you have to worry about mental health if this situation continues for much longer. This forum, this thread is a good outlet for people to get things off their chests. Nobody is saying it's funny, are we not allowed to have an alternate opinion on here in case someone else is struggling. I appreciate I'm well in the minority but I don't believe in worrying about anything no matter how horrific it might be to my family or myself, just don't see the point as it just makes you feel shit. -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 16 minutes ago, effeffsee_the2nd said: BASTURT! You beat me to it ! I can imagine them sitting in their meetings going "ocht bloody football and alcohol I tell ye if we just shut them down and keep them shut we'd sort this mess of a country right oot! " when I was 5 years old I fell of my bike and skint both my knees, my hysterical maw wanted there to be "nae mare bike!" until my dad thankfully stepped in and telt her to simmer the f**k doon It's as though they're a bunch of control freaks who make knee jerk decisions without checking or fully understanding the science around covid and how it spreads and circumstances where it struggles to spread e.g. controlled outdoor activities e.g. football subject to the protocols which they (SFA/SP) agreed with at one time! NP is more Thatcher than socialist but, at the same time, more wanting to be ruled and subsidised by the EU than the UK. An odd combination. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger29 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 This sounds interesting if you can get in to read it... No paywall for me anyway.TL;DR A mixture of too slow on research into mRNA pre-covid, focused on old technology, mistakes in trials and possibly getting "distracted" from their core business (i.e. manufacturing drugs and vaccines for other diseases). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Nobody is saying it's funny, are we not allowed to have an alternate opinion on here in case someone else is struggling. I appreciate I'm well in the minority but I don't believe in worrying about anything no matter how horrific it might be to my family or myself, just don't see the point as it just makes you feel shit. f**k me 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: 4 minutes ago, ayrmad said: Nobody is saying it's funny, are we not allowed to have an alternate opinion on here in case someone else is struggling. I appreciate I'm well in the minority but I don't believe in worrying about anything no matter how horrific it might be to my family or myself, just don't see the point as it just makes you feel shit. f**k me Which part do you not like. Edited February 16, 2021 by ayrmad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Bairnardo said: It's really about what the government have a right to compel you to do tbh, in the case of vaccine passports, what information about your health you are compelled to prove to be allowed into a cinema or such like, aswell as how associated date is gathered and used. Many would see it as the thin end of the wedge and I would be inclined to agree, especially given the UK governments shenanigans around test and trace. The simple question is, can they be trusted to implement it in a fair end transparent way, only used for its sole stated purpose, and with bulletproof privacy. I fail to see how anyone could ever answer yes to that. Wasn't one of the big objections to the national ID card that the government/police wanted to be able to use it to track locations of suspected/known criminals to aid in apprehension? While on the face of it that may seem a reasonable thing but there were plenty other areas for scope creep. It absolutely would not be implemented in a manner you describe above. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Tourette Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Vaccine passport? Not got. Don't get in?. Was there not talk of this for flying. “Got yer vaccine passport there, pal?”“Aye ok, but you’re still not getting in with that fucking trainers” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, Left Back said: Wasn't one of the big objections to the national ID card that the government/police wanted to be able to use it to track locations of suspected/known criminals to aid in apprehension? While on the face of it that may seem a reasonable thing but there were plenty other areas for scope creep. It absolutely would not be implemented in a manner you describe above. Sorry m8 I thought you were sort of arguing against objections to ID cards. Once upon a time I wouldnt have objected because I would have foolishly bought the "if your doing nothing wrong theres nothing to worry about" line but now, f**k that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 So fly via Dublin to Scotland and you avoid the blanket hotel quarantine? We knew that before yesterday. That guy's story is "odd" to say the least (one for the watching going by his bizarre behaviouron TV interviews last night). He had been "delayed" in Dublin due to a longer than usual immigration check. It looks like a case of those at the airport not knowing the rules as Dublin has the same status as English airports ie the common travel area. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, ayrmad said: Nobody is saying it's funny, are we not allowed to have an alternate opinion on here in case someone else is struggling. I appreciate I'm well in the minority but I don't believe in worrying about anything no matter how horrific it might be to my family or myself, just don't see the point as it just makes you feel shit. You can look forward to the various scenarios here without doing your wellbeing damage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, ayrmad said: Nobody is saying it's funny, are we not allowed to have an alternate opinion on here in case someone else is struggling. I appreciate I'm well in the minority but I don't believe in worrying about anything no matter how horrific it might be to my family or myself, just don't see the point as it just makes you feel shit. That is quite possibly the most half-witted outlook on life I've ever heard. Jesus Christ. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: Sorry m8 I thought you were sort of arguing against objections to ID cards. Once upon a time I wouldnt have objected because I would have foolishly bought the "if your doing nothing wrong theres nothing to worry about" line but now, f**k that. I'm not pro them as I failed to see what they realistically achieved in a positive sense for an ordinary citizen but some of the objections seemed a bit hysterical to me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, djchapsticks said: That is quite possibly the most half-witted outlook on life I've ever heard. Jesus Christ. 'My wife wants a divorce, I've lost my job and I cant afford my mortgage, ach could be worse.' 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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