Elixir Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 52 minutes ago, Burnieman said: Tell that to Sridhar, Leitch & Co who appear obsessed with "re-seeding" the virus from "abroad". As an aside, was any evidence produced (I genuinely don't know) to back-up the SG's claim that last summer, the virus was "re-seeded" from "abroad" due to holidays and to what extent? They published a nonsense paper looking at foreign travel, and either conveniently forgot travel across the border with England, or highlighted just how much was 'seeded' from there, I honestly can't remember which. Either way it's irrelevant considering at no point were cases 'zero' in Scotland, so err... the virus was still endemic in our communities, and would have led to the wave we saw this winter. A total nonsense. 45 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: Another throw away comment on BBC Breakfast this morning from an expert that Brits just need to accept living with 'prevention of virus transmission' for the long term. No elaboration on that point or questioning on it. That's a really unhelpfully vague statement to make at a time where anxiety about getting out of this is probably as high as it's ever been. Again, the sociopaths who come out with these absurdities, thankfully, are fringe nutters. They won't be deciding what happens in future. Granted, they should be challenged, not just in the media, but by others in their field. People like Whitty etc who actually matter, are clear that 'life as before the pandemic' is possible once the virus is de-risked through immunity, vaccinations, and treatments. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 (edited) The SG banned people going abroad to stop people catching it, so people holidayed in the UK, and brought it back from Blackpool instead... Migration of people, no matter where to and from, is what leads to increased transmission of an endemic virus. Border closures following the vaccine rollout would be a nonsense measure, fuelled by nothing more than "but the variants" fear porn. Particularly in the absurd, but possible, scenario where anyone entering Scotland from outside the UK needs to quarantine, whilst the actual UK border is open and there are no restrictions on travel within the UK. Edited February 9, 2021 by Todd_is_God 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Elixir said: Again, the sociopaths who come out with these absurdities, thankfully, are fringe nutters. They won't be deciding what happens in future. Granted, they should be challenged, not just in the media, but by others in their field. People like Whitty etc who actually matter, are clear that 'life as before the pandemic' is possible once the virus is de-risked through immunity, vaccinations, and treatments. I agree, it's extremely unlikely. I just find it astonishing that they can drop in comments like this so casually without appreciating the magnitude of what they're saying/implying, and then not be challenged or asked to elaborate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 Good luck to the Government trying to continue applying restrictions once everyone's been vaccinated. They might get away with travel on the grounds of Matt Hancock's undiscovered variant, but people will expect distancing and masks thrown into the bin, pubs/restaurants open and to be able to visit their friends and family. Maybe we can even go mental and attend a football match as well. Thinking about it, now would he a really great time for that adult conversation on the exit strategy. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 The reason that foreign travel is blamed for rising infections at the end of summer is the change in the dominant variant from the initial lockdown to a variant which originated in Spain in June. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Michael W said: Good luck to the Government trying to continue applying restrictions once everyone's been vaccinated. They might get away with travel on the grounds of Matt Hancock's undiscovered variant, but people will expect distancing and masks thrown into the bin, pubs/restaurants open and to be able to visit their friends and family. Maybe we can even go mental and attend a football match as well. Thinking about it, now would he a really great time for that adult conversation on the exit strategy. BJ's roadmap is coming out on the 22nd isnt it? That should give some insight, at least, as to what they would like to do, as well as what isn't in their plans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Detournement said: The reason that foreign travel is blamed for rising infections at the end of summer is the change in the dominant variant from the initial lockdown to a variant which originated in Spain in June. We never would have had a winter pandemic wave of an already endemic virus if only we hadn't travelled elsewhere when transmission rates were minuscule! Edited February 9, 2021 by Elixir 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: BJ's roadmap is coming out on the 22nd isnt it? That should give some insight, at least, as to what they would like to do, as well as what isn't in their plans. It is indeed. Given his previous comments on the matter and how events turned, I am not holding out much hope regardless of what is put out! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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effeffsee_the2nd Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 Another throw away comment on BBC Breakfast this morning from an expert that Brits just need to accept living with 'prevention of virus transmission' for the long term. No elaboration on that point or questioning on it. That's a really unhelpfully vague statement to make at a time where anxiety about getting out of this is probably as high as it's ever been.It annoys me that absolutely none of them are asked to elaborate. I’m not worried because a year into Scary virus!! The media is running out of stories, especially since f**k all else is happening right now.The headline “ life will gradually drift back to pre pandemic normality after a while but some aspects of some peoples behaviour or habbits may change permanently “ isn’t going to attract ant viewers in a way that “LOCKDOWN FOREVER “ does 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 13 minutes ago, Elixir said: We never would have had a winter pandemic wave of an already endemic virus if only we hadn't travelled elsewhere when transmission rates were minuscule! We obviously would have but numbers would probably have remained lower until the beginning of winter. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 12 minutes ago, Michael W said: It is indeed. Given his previous comments on the matter and how events turned, I am not holding out much hope regardless of what is put out! True. I'd pay lip service to any dates, indicative or otherwise. But... it will be better to know at least what they have in mind / envisage the next 6 months looking like, rather than sweeping statements of "greater domestic normality" and restrictions "for some time" which reveal nothing at all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Naitch Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 Usually enjoy a bit of snowfall but knowing it’s going to have a negative impact on vaccination numbers has ruined it for me.My mum got her jag this morning. She wasn’t letting any snow stop her from getting it though she’s lucky enough that her health centre is only a few minutes away from her.Wouldn’t surprise me if there is a drop in numbers compared to this time last week, nothing to get worried about though. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Aldo Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 All restrictions need lifted now...worlds gone totally mental Have we learned nothing? The current pandemic started after someone had a plate of bat soup but this is surely worse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 61,300 vaccines done yesterday!Shit the bed. 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super_carson Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 (edited) 61k vaccines done yesterday...realistically that will be lower today due to the weather. Unfortunately there's only so much we can really do about that, but if we can get 60k most days that may help address any shortfall due to weather. Edited February 9, 2021 by super_carson 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP_MFC Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 61,300 vaccines done yesterday!Shit the bed. Why are we not doing more etc etc 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 Usually enjoy a bit of snowfall but knowing it’s going to have a negative impact on vaccination numbers has ruined it for me.Oooft Public 1v0 Snow as over 61k were jagged yesterday. No need to be down about a but if weather. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 Should have had higher target in the first place. Unacceptable. If it wasn't for the British army we'd be up shit creek. SNP bad 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 Just now, Paco said: 61,300 vaccines done yesterday! Shit the bed. That's, erm, excellent 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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