DeeTillEhDeh Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 FFS mate grow up ! That was the stated target all along. She states again they are bang on schedule yet that doesn't suit your primary school level agenda.Ffs don't bring schools into it!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, djchapsticks said: Janssen are Belgian so will almost certainly favour EU distribution. It's due to go into mass production by late February. All the initial supplies of AZ and Pfizer came from Belgium too, hopefully AZ are fully up and running in Wrexham by now. Janssen is fully owned by Johnson and Johnson, so America will likely get first dibs on any uncontracted supply. Edited January 25, 2021 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Left Back said: Don’t we have a load of Jansen on order? Not seen anthing about J&J but remember something similar on the list. Not sure about the UK's numbers tbh. I forgot about Curevac - that's actually the third biggest EU contract. Developed in association with Bayer. Both are German companies. The EU is every bit as protectionist as any country. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibsFan Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 32 minutes ago, djchapsticks said: This is the journalistic equivalent of 'Am no a VL a got aff wae a lassie at ma grans bit, you wouldny know her'. Genuinely should be illegal for c***s to spew stuff like that without proper sources etc., that'll go along the grapevine regardless of whether it's true or not and put the fear of god into pensioners getting their AZ jab. Pathetic stuff from this German mob. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, G51 said: True. I think the EU are already pretty heavy into that one - I think it's the fourth biggest contract behind Pfizer, AZ and Sanofi (lol). The EU bought almost none of the Moderna vaccine. See this well loved meme? GSK and Sanofi are the polar opposite of that. Imagine two wee weasley slimy withered hands in a limp pathetic wet flannel of a handshake. That's the very embodiment of a GSK and Sanofi collaboration. A pair of complete and utter basketcases that are run behind a wall of scripted responses. Two companies that embody embracing automation whilst not actually understanding it and leaving a company chock full of semi trained incompetents. At least in the office level. The day I heard they were in the race I knew it was fucking pie in the sky. Both belong in the bin. Edited January 25, 2021 by djchapsticks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, Left Back said: Don’t we have a load of Jansen on order? Not seen anthing about J&J but remember something similar on the list. Janssen is J&J. Same company, Janssen make the medicines, J&J are all about the baby oil. I like Janssen, easy to deal with. I wish their vaccine effort well! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 I thought the EU had more of a share in Moderna than the UK did. Also, is it Sanofi that Vallance has a load of shares in? Nae luck. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, djchapsticks said: Janssen is J&J. Same company, Janssen make the medicines, J&J are all about the baby oil. I like Janssen, easy to deal with. I wish their vaccine effort well! Must be less friction dealing with the baby oil division surely? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, HibsFan said: Genuinely should be illegal for c***s to spew stuff like that without proper sources etc., that'll go along the grapevine regardless of whether it's true or not and put the fear of god into pensioners getting their AZ jab. Pathetic stuff from this German mob. Being reported all across Europe tonight. Everyone repeating it word for word. They need to have some data to back this up. Undermining the entire vaccination effort. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Meanwhile, the latest state of play: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 minute ago, G51 said: Being reported all across Europe tonight. Everyone repeating it word for word. They need to have some data to back this up. Undermining the entire vaccination effort. Well if they don’t want it then it’s more for us to get the UK vaccinated quicker. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 If this is what it turns out to be, then it's fucking unforgivable: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Uncle Fritz is obviously too soft handle a dose of proper British vaccine. It's like D Day all over again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Have some faith in Magic Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 45 minutes ago, djchapsticks said: Interesting that there doesn't appear to be a single medical source in Germany pushing that the vaccine has 8% efficacy in the elderly. All signs so far point to this being a policitally led claim. Boy from the FT saying one story is that 8% of the people in the trial were over 65. Sounds like somebody has got their wires crossed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, G51 said: If this is what it turns out to be, then it's fucking unforgivable: Don’t you mean hysterical? if this is the case then the sources need fired. If they can’t do basic maths they shouldn’t be trusted with making any decisions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 There was always some doubt over the effectiveness of the AZ vaccine especially with one shot. They should keep the good vaccines for the high risk and keep the Brexit one for lower risk. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 9 minutes ago, Elixir said: Meanwhile, the latest state of play: I think Serbia gave some of theirs to North Macedonia. Which was nice. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie McSquackle Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 All the initial supplies of AZ and Pfizer came from Belgium too, hopefully AZ are fully up and running in Wrexham by now. Janssen is fully owned by Johnson and Johnson, so America will likely get first dibs on any uncontracted supply. Wockhardt in Wrexham is essentially a bottling plant. They make it at various manufacturing plants around Britain and it's taken there in bulk for packing into individual doses. It's been running on two 'fills' per week for a while which could be up to a million doses each depending on which manufacturer it's coming from. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Also, didn’t AZ make all their data public so what underlying data are the Germans believing is private? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP_MFC Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 The telegraph now reporting that the EU will block Pfizer from exporting to make up for the shortfall from AZ and at best future supplies will be severely delayed.Again, I expect it's nonsense, especially as its the telegraph reporting an anti EU story, but if it came to fruition could have a major impact on the vaccine strategy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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