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57 minutes ago, Marshmallo said:

Sunday is a day of rest so to vaccinate 11k on a Sunday is really good actually.

Probably shorter hours too, let everyone get a lie in.

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1 hour ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said:

The schools up here go back on April 19th after Easter. Surely they can't justify the nationwide lockdown until then with infection numbers already dropping to pre Xmas rates?

If there is one thing we have learned over the last ten months it is to not underestimate the level of mass hysteria over this and the way politicians are responding to that rather than being driven by rationality.

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1 hour ago, The Stig said:

I think most reasonable people don't expect schools to be back now until after the planned Easter break, but what is the problem in telling everyone that.  it is this constant 3 week kicking the can down the road bullshit that all governments are coming out with. and is pissing off the public even more as they are unable to plan for anything?

 

The UK governments will put school reopening at the top of the list and so I'd be surprised if they aren't open by the middle of March. If they're lucky then that decision will 'just' massively slow down the drop in cases, but there's every chance that they make an arse of it and cases spike up for a few weeks instead. 

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No point getting upset about the numbers or targets.  If governments f**k up they’re typically held accountable at the ballot box.  That obviously isn’t going to happen in this case.  That’s the problem of single issue politics like independence or brexit.  As long as those single issue goals are pursued then everything else can go to hell in a handcart with no questions asked.

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5 minutes ago, TheScarf said:

Is she at it here?

 

No I think that's completely sensible, I'm not sure what you call someone who has most of the protection of the course but is yet to complete the course of treatment.

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1 minute ago, TheScarf said:

Is she at it here?

 

She absolutely isn't. If you were vaccinated after one jag, why have the second?

I assume this in reference to that sock-puppet Hancock claiming that three-quarters of over-80s had been done. Fact is, the way they're leaving twelve weeks between shots to get more numbers half-done means that even two may not give the expected efficacy. Still, what's public health compared to a couple of positive (although mendacious) soundbites, eh?

 

 

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56 minutes ago, WhiteRoseKillie said:

So, what's an acceptable number of starving kids to avoid you having to take a "dunt" to your (no doubt five-figure) income to ease their deprivation?

I've already stated that any degree of absolute poverty in the UK is unacceptable, you dimwit.

There is nothing to suggest that people struggling to feed their 'starving kids' is the causal factor for the wholesale flouting of self-isolation requirements across every segment of UK society though.

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 Carry on with your pathetic edgelord shite all you want, but hunger and, yes, destitution is a very real issue for more and more people in this country* - eating is not a fucking lifestyle.

Going on a foreign holiday is a lifestyle choice that the comfortable majority (64% in 2019) of people in the UK make every year. If you can afford the cost of a family holiday over the course of a year then you can quite clearly afford the cost of sitting in your house for ten days during a pandemic. Which means that the comfortable majority of the UK have no fundamental poverty-based argument for failing to comply with by far the most important restriction in tackling the pandemic, while frothing about people breaching their precious 'two metre!!!!111!!!' bubble walking down the street. Which is why we are where we are right now.

Thanks for playing anyway.

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3 minutes ago, WhiteRoseKillie said:

She absolutely isn't. If you were vaccinated after one jag, why have the second?

I assume this in reference to that sock-puppet Hancock claiming that three-quarters of over-80s had been done. Fact is, the way they're leaving twelve weeks between shots to get more numbers half-done means that even two may not give the expected efficacy. Still, what's public health compared to a couple of positive (although mendacious) soundbites, eh?

The current programme of vaccinations is approved by the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation.  Here's the report detailing why they have taken this approach.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/prioritising-the-first-covid-19-vaccine-dose-jcvi-statement/optimising-the-covid-19-vaccination-programme-for-maximum-short-term-impact

 

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7 minutes ago, Left Back said:

No point getting upset about the numbers or targets.  If governments f**k up they’re typically held accountable at the ballot box.  That obviously isn’t going to happen in this case.  That’s the problem of single issue politics like independence or brexit.  As long as those single issue goals are pursued then everything else can go to hell in a handcart with no questions asked.

In all honesty, while Independence remains a viable - and laudable, who wouldn't want to cut ties to Johnson's England? - proposition, Brexit is now over and done as a campaigning tool. What's left is trying to sell the result a s a win for good ol' Blighty. How's that going, then?

Less than a month in, and the best they can do to help businesses avoid the self-inflicted sand in the cogs of business is to suggest opening fulfillment centres (i.e. warehouses) in the EU, and deliver to individual customers from there so they only have to go through the entire border palaver once rather than multiple times. So, the best way to avoid that red tape which, let's not forget, was going to make a massive bonfire, is to, eh, set up shop in the EU.  This is less than a month in.

Owners of property abroad, artists like Roger fucking Daltrey*, Fishermen of all shapes and sizes - overwhelmingly enthusiastic Brexit and Tory voters getting shafted by by their heroes. It would be delicious if they weren't fucking everybody else over at the same time.

* Who would have guessed Paedo Pete wasn't the bigest cúnt in The Who?

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59 minutes ago, Father Ted said:

I think a bit of positivity and incentive are required now from SG.

We have vaccines and say if we can get figures down to a certain level regards infection and vaccinations to a certain point, by X date. Then we can do a, b and c, to give people hope and something to aim for.

This relentless negativity and never ending lockdowns are doing no one's mental health or general state any good, whatsoever.

I'm well aware that caution/negativity is easier to do but it's grinding people down and is the lazy route through this second lockdown.

Good points, well made...

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I prefer not to buy into "class" as its another division foisted upon us by government, who wish to divide us, so we don't stand against them. 

...but now Marx's coffin is spinning out of the graveyard and breaking Earth's gravitational hold. 

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10 minutes ago, virginton said:

I've already stated that any degree of absolute poverty in the UK is unacceptable, you dimwit.

There is nothing to suggest that people struggling to feed their 'starving kids' is the causal factor for the wholesale flouting of self-isolation requirements across every segment of UK society though.

Going on a foreign holiday is a lifestyle choice that the comfortable majority (64% in 2019) of people in the UK make every year. If you can afford the cost of a family holiday over the course of a year then you can quite clearly afford the cost of sitting in your house for ten days during a pandemic. Which means that the comfortable majority of the UK have no fundamental poverty-based argument for failing to comply with by far the most important restriction in tackling the pandemic, while frothing about people breaching their precious 'two metre!!!!111!!!' bubble walking down the street. Which is why we are where we are right now.

Thanks for playing anyway.

what we call poverty in this country is simply not having the disposable income that the majority of people do, absolute poverty where your income is not enough to cover the most basic essentials , food, clothing, electricity /gas, communications , shelter & tax  ( the last 2 are most often waived by means of benefits and credit in cases where the persons situation warrents applying for help) is very rare in the uk, it does exist but it is not as widespread as people make out.

There are a number of factors why someone might slip through the cracks and fall from standard first world poverty to genuinely struggling to feed themselves and keep the lights on, the most common of which is when people with severe vulnerabilities are treated as tho they are any other person and just need to pull their socks up when they are in fact not capable of handling budgets and responsabilitys

On paper the uk welfare system should make absolute poverty non existant , but it needs to be properly managed

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23 hours ago, superbigal said:

 

Todays summary     No Neighbourhoods in Scotland now above 1000 cases per 100K

Now accessed the other home nations for the cases per 100K latest and will document their daily progress.   These are a little behind the Scottish cases.  England 453.6 to 437.8,   Wales 279.1 to 262.6, Northern Ireland 335.0 to 322.4,  all 3 dropping and now roughly in line with Scotland's drop rate.

For interest Portugal 725, Spain 502, Czech 500 are the big hitters.  These will hopefully update by tomorrow as out of date.

Scotland peaked at 301.9 for figures 29th Dec to 4th Jan    

From 15th to 21st January we were down to  183.3

Todays figure for 16th Jan to 22nd Jan is 177.3     Another great single Day drop of 3.27%. Infections have dropped every day (now 18 days in a row) since the aforementioned peak.  Total drop is now 41.27%

There are now only 10 Councils with cases over 200 per 100K which is excellent progress for those that have got there. The single day progress particularly stands out in all Ayrshire councils. 

Not a single council in the East or North is above the Scottish Average. 

Click cases by neighbourhood to see the spread on the geographical map. 

https://public.tableau.com/profile/phs.covid.19#!/vizhome/COVID-19DailyDashboard_15960160643010/Overview

North Lanarkshire  297.6 to 284.1   Hopefully some prolonged movement at last.

Glasgow City  276.1 to 266.6   

Renfrewshire  260.7 to 252.4

South Lanarkshire   233.7 to 234.6  

East Dunbartonshire   239.3 to 231.0 

East Ayrshire  243.4 to 228.7  Another big drop 2 days in a row.

Clackmannanshire 238.6 to 223.1

Inverclyde  217.2 to 221.1

North Ayrshire 233.0 to 219.7  Good day again.

West Dunbartonshire  222.6 to 219.3  

Falkirk   203.2 to 197.7

Dumfries & Galloway 206.2 to 184.1 

South Ayrshire  197.1 to 178.5  10% Reduction great day  

Dundee City 182.2 to 176.8  

East Renfrewshire  164.3 to 167.5 

Aberdeen City   164.0 to 154.4   Another excellent day for a big city.

Angus  155.8 to 151.5 

Perth & Kinross   147.4 to 138.9

Moray   125.2 to 138.8  The inhabitants of Buckie do seem to be hindering this areas progress.

Scottish  Borders    133.3 to 138.5   2 Daily rises in a row. Nothing obvious.

West Lothian  135.4 to 136.5   2 Daily rises in a row. Nothing obvious.

Stirling    134.8 to 134.8

Midlothian    116.8 to 129.8   Bonnyrigg culprit this time around.  What taking Dundee to extra time probably caused

Fife     128.2 to 117.8    Hurtling downwards. Large areas of North & East Fife Covid free.  Only Ballingry & lochore hotspots.

Aberdeenshire    117.5 to 112.2

City Of Edinburgh   110.3 to 111.3  

Western Isles   108.5 to 104.8   Barra and South Uist reacted and dropping like a stone. Be down to feck all in a few days.

East Lothian  103.7 to 97.1   Hits the sub 100 milestone. 

Highlands  81.8 to 79.7   

Shetland Islands  74.2 to 65.4

Argyll & Bute    64.1 to 60.6  

Orkney Island  44.9 to 35.9  

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