Michael W Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) There were a few vaccine centres shut yesterday in England and Wales as a result of bad weather. No idea if it was the same in Scotland. E&W numbers will probably take a hit as well. Edited January 25, 2021 by Michael W 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, Scosha said: Hahahahah 11k. Christ. A very worrying figure - although there may well be reasons behind it. Not saying there are, not saying there aren't. Why the laughing, though? This isn't a fucking game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Honest Saints Fan said: 46% of all over 80s. So 54% to be done in a week? February 5th is the deadline date, apparently. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) 47 minutes ago, WhiteRoseKillie said: What, like A. many people employed full-time living a precipitous existence and having to choose between isolating and eating, and B. Well-off travellers deciding to ignore rules they find inconvenient? You, of course, want to know what proportion are unable to self-isolate. Because these are the less well-off, the "not our kind, darling", the "underclass". You raise their SSP, they'll just spend it on crack and whores. Scum, in't they? Have a look at the number of food banks. Have a look at the necessity to feed kids when schools are closed. This might give you some idea of the scale of the problem. It doesn't provide an idea of 'the scale of the problem' here at all. The majority of people in the country are not actually using food banks or 'having to choose between isolating and eating'. That measure of absolute poverty - by a developed country's benchmark of course - is still a very small minority of the population. It shouldn't be there at all but it is not the reality for the majority of those who admit - even in survey data - that they are not complying with self-isolation requirements. Absolute poverty (or fear of this) is not driving society-wide reluctance to self-isolate. There is quite clearly a much larger section of the population for whom taking two weeks out on SSP would be a huge relative dunt to their income, but not actually sufficient to tip them over the edge into destitution. And of course, anyone who has access to credit can absorb that short term hit and recover their losses over time. Does that mean that you might not get your fortnight in Benidorm this year? Well that's just tough. This is the most critical restriction of the entire pandemic response, and so 'but ma lifestyle!11!!' excuses simply cannot be tolerated. Quote Or, you could sit in your mum's basement, telling all and sundry how those having to deal with this are failing, while offering *checks notes* absolutely fúck all in the way of positive suggestions. Well Done, Sonny - you win the Internet. Or you could continue cosplaying your hopelessly wrong 'the vast majority of people live on the breadline!!!' hot take and then wonder why nobody buys what your beloved, 1970s dinosaur politicians keep selling to them. Because the reality in the UK is in fact much more tiered and complex than your tragically one-dimensional analysis. Thanks for playing anyway. Edited January 25, 2021 by vikingTON 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 19 minutes ago, TheScarf said: These fucking morons saying the vaccines don't stop transmission need fired into the sun. How can you transmit a virus you don't fucking have? If it stops high risk people from developing severe symptoms, job done. There was no expectation that the first generation of COVID-19 vaccines were going to provide sterilising immunity that would completely prevent people from ever becoming infected with COVID. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 11k 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 when the government publish that icu figures have decreased, do they count people going out in boxes in that reduction? yesterday was a sunday so expect tomorows cases to be higher, but those are the best numbers for weeks now 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 31 minutes ago, TheScarf said: These fucking morons saying the vaccines don't stop transmission need fired into the sun. How can you transmit a virus you don't fucking have? The data from Israel certainly suggests it is unlikely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 I make that 35.5k per day now to hit the mid-feb target 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomo Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 10 minutes ago, Honest Saints Fan said: 46% of all over 80s. So 54% to be done in a week? They must feel they are on target as my dad is in his 70s and has just got his letter to go for his vaccination on the 8th Feb. I don’t suppose they’ll start the next round till they are confident of finishing the current one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Have some faith in Magic Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, effeffsee_the2nd said: when the government publish that icu figures have decreased, do they count people going out in boxes in that reduction? yesterday was a sunday so expect tomorows cases to be higher, but those are the best numbers for weeks now I have always assumed it includes any means of departure from the ICU. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55791914 No guarantee schools in England will open before Easter. They are closed currently until mid-Feb, which you'd fancy will be prolonged until at least the end of the month. Edited January 25, 2021 by Michael W 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest_Man#1 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 11k is fucking abysmal. How long until someone tries the “but supply” go to excuse? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Stig Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Michael W said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55791914 No schools in England will open before Easter. They are closed currently until mid-Feb, which you'd fancy will be prolonged until at least the end of the month. I think most reasonable people don't expect schools to be back now until after the planned Easter break, but what is the problem in telling everyone that. it is this constant 3 week kicking the can down the road bullshit that all governments are coming out with. and is pissing off the public even more as they are unable to plan for anything? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Sannox Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 And not one question to NS re the woeful vaccine figures. These lunchtime debacles are so staged it’s embarrassing. A question about a spike in Langholm and Canonbie though!!! -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Boris Johnson says he is 'looking at the potential of relaxing some measures' before mid-February - but Number 10 immediately clarifies this is not what he meant !Above from Sky under a headline that the average age of hospital admissions is now 59 as if that's a bad thing. Surely that means fewer of the most vulnerable are now being hospitalised thus reducing the average age ? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, The Stig said: I think most reasonable people don't expect schools to be back now until after the planned Easter break, but what is the problem in telling everyone that. it is this constant 3 week kicking the can down the road bullshit that all governments are coming out with. and is pissing off the public even more as they are unable to plan for anything? Agreed. If they don't want to put a time on it (fair enough, things change), how about a level of infection/hospital bed occupancy rate that will be suitable instead? This applies to all restrictions as well; its not good enough just to keep extending them without some indication. Instead we'll just drop things on people at the last possible moment, ruining preparations once again. It's a farce. Edited January 25, 2021 by Michael W 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Low figures don’t concern me on a Sunday. If it’s low figures any other day then I’ll be bemused. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 The schools up here go back on April 19th after Easter. Surely they can't justify the nationwide lockdown until then with infection numbers already dropping to pre Xmas rates? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomo Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Michael W said: Agreed. If they don't want to put a time on it (fair enough, things change), how about a level of infection/hospital bed occupancy rate that will be suitable instead? This applies to all restrictions as well; its not good enough just to keep extending them without some indication. Instead we'll just drop things on people at the last possible moment, ruining preparations once again. It's a farce. I guess it’s because level of infection or hospital bed occupancy isn’t a stable measure. It may go down to a set figure but fluctuates too easily and could rise again - do you then shut everything down again? They won’t tie themselves to a fixed point because when they get there, they will want to see if the downward trend looks to continue. If they make it a public target then people will expect everything to open and stay open regardless of what the virus is actually doing at that point. Edited January 25, 2021 by Jambomo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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