Erih Shtrep Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 23 minutes ago, Andre Drazen said: What's the deal with the zero percent in Wales for the second dose? It just means no ones had their 2nd dose. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Bully Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Because the SG didn't properly prepare to hit the ground running. The care homes taking priority was a smokescreen designed to play to the gallery who want to proclaim how much more NS cares. As usual, it worked.Or it was dealing with an area where 40% of deaths have occurred and therefore drive the death rate down in the most effective way. -4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Wee Bully said: Or it was dealing with an area where 40% of deaths have occurred and therefore drive the death rate down in the most effective way. Or... we could have done this while still meeting our overall equivalent population share compared to England. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 It's amazing. Even when confronted with black and white facts, cult members just cannot bring themselves to acknowlege SG failings. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Problemo Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Wee Bully said: Or it was dealing with an area where 40% of deaths have occurred and therefore drive the death rate down in the most effective way. I can accept this is part of a shortfall. There is no way on this earth that we should be accepting doing half the vaccinations per capita of England. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Bully Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Or... we could have done this while still meeting our overall equivalent population share compared to England.You may recall there was a UK wide priority list? Which has been worked through is Scotland in the order of the list. Crazy I know. And if we could do what you have suggested, why hasn’t England? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Wee Bully said: You may recall there was a UK wide priority list? Which has been worked through is Scotland in the order of the list. Crazy I know. And if we could do what you have suggested, why hasn’t England? Do you understand how percentages work? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbigal Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Fairly large Doctors Practice in North Fife only been able to scratch the surface of it's large population of over 80s. Received just over 100 Vaccine doses. Does seem really odd. Another load of 12 Community Vaccine Centres Kick off in Fife on 1st February. Subject to getting any vaccine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 1 hour ago, superbigal said: East Renfrewshire 365.3 to 166.4 Down 51.98% Terrific are these Posh Weegies ? You've obviously never been to Dunterlie or Auchenback in Barrhead or Tin Town in Neilston. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, Wee Bully said: You may recall there was a UK wide priority list? Which has been worked through is Scotland in the order of the list.. ^^^ word salad -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Bully Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Do you understand how percentages work?What a strange question. Explain. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Elixir said: Do you understand how percentages work? Given that the vaccines are literally available, the only reason we can't have done more outside of care homes at the same time as what we have done inside them is because we weren't prepared for doing so. That could be down to a lack of vaccinators, a lack of sites, or not having contacted people to arrange an appointment. All 3 of those reasons represent a lack of preparation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Bully Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Given that the vaccines are literally available, the only reason we can't have done more outside of care homes at the same time as what we have done inside them is because we weren't prepared for doing so. That could be down to a lack of vaccinators, a lack of sites, or not having contacted people to arrange an appointment. All 3 of those reasons represent a lack of preparation.Why haven’t they been able to vaccinate all those in care homes south of the border? Is it lack of vaccinators, lack of sites or not having contacted care homes to arrange a visit?All 3 of those reasons represent a lack of preparation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 18 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: Because the SG didn't properly prepare to hit the ground running. The care homes taking priority was a smokescreen designed to play to the gallery who want to proclaim how much more NS cares. As proven by the pallet burners having already reached 90% of care homes earlier in the month and also being well ahead of Freeman's tinpot efforts by overall population: http://www.carehome.co.uk/news/amp/article/id/1640532/pm-brings-in-army-as-england-lags-behind-scotland-and-ni-with-care-home-vaccination Scotland's rollout excels in no category and is trundling along the bottom overall with the fucking clowncar Welsh ministry - it of the 17 different lockdown policies in the autumn infamy. Heads should roll unless this is resolved by the end of the month, but with the minister responsible pottering into retirement anyway I somehow can't see her shaking things up. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Wee Bully said: Why haven’t they been able to vaccinate all those in care homes south of the border? Is it lack of vaccinators, lack of sites or not having contacted care homes to arrange a visit? All 3 of those reasons represent a lack of preparation. Pathetic usual cult response. Our overall rollout is shite, but at least we have done more care home residents than England!!!!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, Wee Bully said: What a strange question. Explain. We may well have nearly finished care homes. We're also 3% under our population share contribution. That 3% could have been made up simultaneously in other cohorts, i.e. those over the age of 80 in the community. Primary school stuff. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedToGoToCentralPark Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Given that the vaccines are literally available, the only reason we can't have done more outside of care homes at the same time as what we have done inside them is because we weren't prepared for doing so. That could be down to a lack of vaccinators, a lack of sites, or not having contacted people to arrange an appointment. All 3 of those reasons represent a lack of preparation.There's hundreds of thousands of doses sitting in a warehouse in Scotland not getting used. Pathetic. England seems to be working on a if we've got it, get it distributed and get it used. Sensible. Care homes being used as a sound bite response. If you're sitting in a A&E in an English hospital in the middle of the night and they have unused doses they are using them on patients where suitable, that's a great idea TBF. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Elixir said: We may well have nearly finished care homes. We're also 3% under our population share contribution. That 3% could have been made up simultaneously in other cohorts, i.e. those over the age of 80 in the community. Primary school stuff. I'm tired of hearing this line tbh. Either we weren't "nearly finished" when it was first used, or we're flapping about getting through whatever amount remains. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Just start firing the vaccine into anyone to get the numbers up. That’s all that matters. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, Wee Bully said: Why haven’t they been able to vaccinate all those in care homes south of the border? Is it lack of vaccinators, lack of sites or not having contacted care homes to arrange a visit? All 3 of those reasons represent a lack of preparation. Having a larger spread in both care homes and 80+ cohorts rather than seemingly waiting to tie up just care homes is more effective for two reasons: the first is that having a larger number vaccinated quicker means it has a greater gross effect on immunity levels and transmission, second is that mortality rates between care homes and people aged 80+ in the community will be negligible. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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