D.A.F.C Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 When he gave the example at 10% I thought he was going to say up to 50% or above. It could maybe possibly go up 3%. What's the point in announcing that. Its scare tactics. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Problemo Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Just to wind everyone up.... Devi now saying by this time next year to be back to our normal daily lives! Really had to post this on here to stop me exploding in some kind of twitter rage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 When he gave the example at 10% I thought he was going to say up to 50% or above. It could maybe possibly go up 3%. What's the point in announcing that. Its scare tactics.Probably so the public don’t demand a return to the tiers, they might say “we were at Tier x in October when our cases and hospital capacity was the same as now so put us back”. Now the government cwn say ah but this is 30% more deadly But todd is right this will backfire massively on these clowns because they can’t think of anything more than the immediate consequences. Side effects don’t cross their mind 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 It's right handy for some that clear reductions in infection rates have timed exactly with an new and more deadly variant. Wonder what it will be when we can all see hospital numbers going down....Perhaps Random Guys covid that gives you aids will get the public airing none of us expected. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherchance Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 22 minutes ago, craigkillie said: Are these two accounts verified as being good sources run by people who know what they're talking about? It's important that just because the media are scaremongering people don't fall into the trap of believing anyone who says things to the contrary - that's what made "Professor" Karl Sikora prominent for a wee while. They seem to be promoting aspects which are positive - e.g the vaccines still work, vaccination numbers are on the increase and highlights stories and opinion pieces which don’t get hyped up. The fact checker especially was really useful in debunking the likes of the half baked dramatic story coming out of Israel earlier this week. One of the worst things people can do is to follow too many scientists on there and get dragged into the minutae of the complexities of vaccines and immune systems desperately looking for signs of hope - I’ve done this before and it does absolutely nothing for your mental health. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Theroadlesstravelled Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, No_Problemo said: Just to wind everyone up.... Devi now saying by this time next year to be back to our normal daily lives! Really had to post this on here to stop me exploding in some kind of twitter rage. So we have a professor of virology saying that we need to keep the lockdown in place. Can we have an QAnon, anti-covid bam saying it's all fake to balance it out? -7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomo Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 17 minutes ago, MuckleMoo said: By all means tell the public if the virus is becoming more deadly but can they at least wait until they have the actual evidence to prove it, rather than this anecdotal bullshit It’s because they need to do more research and evidence-gathering, the studies take time. The problem is whilst this happens, a potentially more deadly variant is spreading so they are warning us and letting us know so we understand why the restrictions remain so tight. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Litt Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) Trying to stay positive but it's really difficult when you've got experts trying to push the view that there should be f**k all to look forward to in the coming months when we don't even know what they're gonna look like. Beginning to get scunnered. Edited January 22, 2021 by Louis Litt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 To quote Mark Corrigan; this dynamic could go on indefinitely. Cases and deaths start to drop due to lockdown and the vaccines, so they announce a new variant. Then WM and the SG shit themselves, without any actual data, and we’re in lockdown for months and months. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 FFS this is getting all Birdbox, leave the house yer deid. If we have a really deadly strain lockdown everywhere properly for 3 weeks then we eradicate it and move on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomo Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Snafu said: It's well over a month since they announced they were aware of it. What have they been doing...............? Gathering the data they have just talked about. Looking at rates of transmission and deaths will be a study over a period of time and a few weeks of data aren’t enough to see a firm new trend in rates and know they aren’t just outliers. Edited January 22, 2021 by Jambomo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Aldo Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Putting my tin foil hat firmly on here but it's almost as if, what with cases falling, that the new variant being more transmissible has turned out to be a crock of shit (or at least not as transmissible as made out) so they have to move onto something else to keep up "compliance". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 hour ago, anotherchance said: Would this be the same Neil Ferguson whose back of a fag packet 'model' went for half a million deaths last spring and who completely screwed up on the Foot and Mouth outbreak as well? This is how he should be dealt with in the corridors of government. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Todd_is_God said: 130% of a small number is still a small number anyway. Exactly. I don't see what the problem is here. If the modelling had shown that there was no increase in lethality we'd expect them to report it - and they would, after all they reported initially that they didn't think there would be. There's a danger that all bad news is just discounted as fear porn, whereas any hint of positive news is trumpeted as the way it will be - look at Whitty's comments yesterday re restrictions. Neither stance is particularly scientific or rational, and just further evidence that this is now ideological and barely anyone is interested in facts or truth - people are only interested in what confirms what they already believe. Edited January 22, 2021 by madwullie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 If we're not back to normal by this time next year then I hope there's a revolution. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH33 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 17 minutes ago, PWL said: My twenty years of being a anti social freak has been good practice. Didn’t watch it but this ‘announcement’ is scaremongering try and get more people to comply? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) It's obvious the new variant is more powerful given the massive spikes and hospital capacity being challenged, and the wider age range. That can't be explained by Christmas alone, but the infection rate has been dropping nearly as quickly as it rose, and hopefully the hospitalisation and ICU rates will soon follow, and vaccination will prevent another spike. Back to tiers by the end of February and normality by late summer is my bet. Worst that could happen is we'll need another jag in the autumn, like we do every year with the flu. Edited January 22, 2021 by welshbairn 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 hour ago, TheScarf said: The mainstream UK media are fucking arseholes. Knowing that the lowest common denominator lap up everything they tell us and that 70% of us will be dead from COVID within 18 months. It's been said before. If headlines like that drove 100 people to suicide but also sold 100 more papers, that's what they'll go with rather than any positive story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Something I've been considering lately is that while younger people may get vaccinated this year, they'll probably not bother doing it routinely if it does become a yearly thing alongside flu jabs. Unless of course it remains a necessity for travelling etc longer term. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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