welshbairn Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 46 minutes ago, ICTChris said: Hong Kong have completed barred entry to anyone who has been in Ireland or Brazil in the last three weeks. Already applies to UK and South Africa. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Matt Hancock is self isolating again 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 minute ago, doulikefish said: Matt Hancock is self isolating again Fed up of going on the news programmes imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, doulikefish said: Matt Hancock is self isolating again The cynic in me thinks immediately “publicity stunt” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Left Back said: The cynic in me thinks immediately “publicity stunt” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 19 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: There was never an adjustment in the generally perceived threat level from what was being reported back in March when the IFR was believed to be 2% to what actually happened with an IFR of around 0.2% that was very heavily age skewed towards those with multiple comorbidities. I've pretty much given up on trying to reason with people at this point over why life does need to still go on reasonably normally to prevent serious problems from developing elsewhere. Vaccines should finally be the way out and it will only be a few weeks until they should be putting a massive dent in the death and ICU numbers once all the over 70s have been done. Hancock saying lockdown can only be lifted as long as no new variants are discovered is the latest goalpost shift. The recent obsession with variants, when they were previously never mentioned, is a weird one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 What is it with Boris and trying to lift restrictions in line with a public holiday. Trust us Boris we don't need a public holiday to celebrate the end of this shit show, no one will be at work regardless. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 10 hours ago, NotThePars said: 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, yoda said: I don’t see it as authoritarian, I reckon people just want things back to normal ASAP. The lockdown in March achieved that, the ‘lockdown’ we have now is a pale imitation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 9 minutes ago, 101 said: What is it with Boris and trying to lift restrictions in line with a public holiday. Trust us Boris we don't need a public holiday to celebrate the end of this shit show, no one will be at work regardless. Restrictions "begin to ease by Good Friday" is fairly grim messaging, even before you get to the bit about it not being a good idea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 What is it with Boris and trying to lift restrictions in line with a public holiday. Trust us Boris we don't need a public holiday to celebrate the end of this shit show, no one will be at work regardless. It's incredible that they would even consider that after the complete disaster at Christmas. Nobody outwith a few religious weirdos gives a toss about Easter anyway. Hopefully Whitty and co put their foot down this time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian1 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 46 minutes ago, doulikefish said: Matt Hancock is self isolating again Did he start crying again? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 29 minutes ago, 101 said: What is it with Boris and trying to lift restrictions in line with a public holiday. Trust us Boris we don't need a public holiday to celebrate the end of this shit show, no one will be at work regardless. Say what you like about Boris but he has an impressive ability to never learn from mistakes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Surely by Easter we've vaccinated all vulnerable people, or very close to all of them? Why is there a need for heavy restrictions at that point? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1885 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Surely nobody's arsed about Easter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted January 19, 2021 Author Share Posted January 19, 2021 Cambridge University have produced an app to assess the risk of airborne transmission. https://airborne.cam/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Just now, The Moonster said: Surely by Easter we've vaccinated all vulnerable people, or very close to all of them? Why is there a need for heavy restrictions at that point? The logic, as I understand it is there would be two outstanding risks: 1) vaccinating the JCVI list should reduce death and general hospitalisations, but weirdly not ICU usage. Since older folk who get it bad enough tend to die, its younger (I.e. middle age) folk with acute Covid that end up in ICU. Therefore there is apparently a risk that letting it circulate before you've vaccinated down to 45+ leaves pressure on Critical care wards. 2) Need data on the impact on transmission from the vaccine. If it interrupts transmission as well as reducing symptoms then great. If not, and you are just making folk asymptomatic then the risk as I understand it is that the virus still circulates as it previously would, leading to increased chances of a mutation that requires adjustment to the vaccine, or has greater chance of reinfecting people who had it before. Not saying I agree with it, but that seems to be the chat firing around. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Surely nobody's arsed about Easter You’ve never met my girlfriends gran. They weren’t allowed Easter eggs until they were 16 because “Jesus had nothing to do with chocolate eggs.” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted January 19, 2021 Author Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 minute ago, renton said: 1) vaccinating the JCVI list should reduce death and general hospitalisations, but weirdly not ICU usage. Since older folk who get it bad enough tend to die, its younger (I.e. middle age) folk with acute Covid that end up in ICU. Therefore there is apparently a risk that letting it circulate before you've vaccinated down to 45+ leaves pressure on Critical care wards. The average age of the occupant of an ICU bed in the current wave is 60, I think. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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