Bairnardo Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 I'd imagine their main role would be distribution rather than doing the jags.Even if they were to do the jags... Where else is there a large number of bodies available to the govt, being paid by the govt who would be willing to train to do vaccines at a moments notice.They are a unique asset and you would expect that they will play a role in this. Mr Carbon Rod is right. The Army are well placed to be involved in this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Manifesto said: How long to get out of Iraq/Afghanistan/Norn? Their logistics are shite. Yeah but there will be nobody shooting at them this time, just a few shouty antivaxxers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I'd imagine their main role would be distribution rather than doing the jags. The armed forces already have a massive team of medical staff don't they? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: A) the army has been proven to be exceptional in terms of logistics and a general sense of ‘lets get it done’. They’ll not fanny about. B) Anyone can be trained to give a vaccine. It is not difficult so long as there is a clinical lead present. There are approx 78,000 people total in the regular Army. The NHS has over twice this number just in Scotland and 15 times that it total. As for logistics, I ask again which facilities does the Army have to carry out mass immunisation programs? There needs to be community facilities that people can attend and if you think that the Army has the ability to conjur these up out of thin air then you are mistaken. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 There are approx 78,000 people total in the regular Army. The NHS has over twice this number just in Scotland and 15 times that it total. As for logistics, I ask again which facilities does the Army have to carry out mass immunisation programs? There needs to be community facilities that people can attend and if you think that the Army has the ability to conjur these up out of thin air then you are mistaken.They are knocking out flu jabs all over the place. Town halls, chemists etc etc. You dont think theres scope to find buildings, or knock up tents in car parks etc? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Yeah I’d have no problems getting an injection from this person. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 1 minute ago, strichener said: There are approx 78,000 people total in the regular Army. The NHS has over twice this number just in Scotland and 15 times that it total. As for logistics, I ask again which facilities does the Army have to carry out mass immunisation programs? There needs to be community facilities that people can attend and if you think that the Army has the ability to conjur these up out of thin air then you are mistaken. You do get that most immunisation actually takes place out with nhs property? In town halls and sports centres etc. All easily dealt with. Have army and other forces operate vaccination centres in all large towns and cities. Mobilise reserve forces too. Armed forces staff are flexible and deployable quickly, no unions to deal with, run the centres 24/7 if need be, just get it fucking done. Wee bit too much talky talky, need a lot more jaggy jaggy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, effeffsee_the2nd said: The armed forces already have a massive team of medical staff don't they? Yes, but genuinely you can train anyone to give the vaccine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Just now, Bairnardo said: 4 minutes ago, strichener said: There are approx 78,000 people total in the regular Army. The NHS has over twice this number just in Scotland and 15 times that it total. As for logistics, I ask again which facilities does the Army have to carry out mass immunisation programs? There needs to be community facilities that people can attend and if you think that the Army has the ability to conjur these up out of thin air then you are mistaken. They are knocking out flu jabs all over the place. Town halls, chemists etc etc. You dont think theres scope to find buildings, or knock up tents in car parks etc? The army are doing this are they? What you have just stated shows that there is little need for the army to get involved in this program. The UK manage to distribute 14 million flu vaccinations without the army, that is more vaccinations than are available to the government for covid. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Granny Danger said: Yeah I’d have no problems getting an injection from this person. Better him than this guy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, strichener said: There are approx 78,000 people total in the regular Army. The NHS has over twice this number just in Scotland and 15 times that it total. As for logistics, I ask again which facilities does the Army have to carry out mass immunisation programs? There needs to be community facilities that people can attend and if you think that the Army has the ability to conjur these up out of thin air then you are mistaken. I take your general point but its likely there will be military medics involved. Community facilities arent thin air either we have been planning since summer and the local authority community facilities are ready to go, we are testing them just now by doing flu jabs there. It will however all have to be coordinated by NHS immunisation teams. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 I'd imagine their main role would be distribution rather than doing the jags.When we had the mobile Covid testing facility in Dundee it was staffed by the Army. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manifesto Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 13 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Yeah but there will be nobody shooting at them this time, just a few shouty antivaxxers. If they are involved in any way, shape or form I'll not be getting it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 8 minutes ago, strichener said: The army are doing this are they? What you have just stated shows that there is little need for the army to get involved in this program. The UK manage to distribute 14 million flu vaccinations without the army, that is more vaccinations than are available to the government for covid. I reckon the army will be too busy trying to cope with Brexit chaos anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 I was speaking to my cousin earlier and he’s a bit confused about the Christmas rules. Could his gf go and visit her parents house with her sister and the kids, and then go to my cousins parents house where his sister and her partner will be? I haven’t looked that much into the Christmas thing so I couldn’t advise him 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 11 minutes ago, invergowrie arab said: I take your general point but its likely there will be military medics involved. Community facilities arent thin air either we have been planning since summer and the local authority community facilities are ready to go, we are testing them just now by doing flu jabs there. It will however all have to be coordinated by NHS immunisation teams. The army have less than 2000 combat medical technicians, it won't even start to make an impact. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aufc Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Based on the last year, if my work had a zoom xmas party then it would consist of about 30-40 guys taking lines of coke whilst their birds danced in a group 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP_MFC Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 I was speaking to my cousin earlier and he’s a bit confused about the Christmas rules. Could his gf go and visit her parents house with her sister and the kids, and then go to my cousins parents house where his sister and her partner will be? I haven’t looked that much into the Christmas thing so I couldn’t advise him No. Up to 3 households can meet and it has to be the same 3 households, no swapsies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Joe Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, MP_MFC said: 37 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said: I was speaking to my cousin earlier and he’s a bit confused about the Christmas rules. Could his gf go and visit her parents house with her sister and the kids, and then go to my cousins parents house where his sister and her partner will be? I haven’t looked that much into the Christmas thing so I couldn’t advise him No. Up to 3 households can meet and it has to be the same 3 households, no swapsies. Could be Arbroath? Edited November 25, 2020 by Angusfifer -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gav-ffc Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 3 hours ago, effeffsee_the2nd said: What about the mighty bairns, still mid table mediocrity for us? Could be level 2 but being surrounded by level 4 will never happen and I’d happily keep things as they are. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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