Guest Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: 58 minutes ago, Ron Aldo said: Latest 7 day rates. Level 4 definitely required. Look at all that stubbornness. North Ayrshire higher than South on every measure yet it's SA that gets put up ! I did notice that, however that's only up to November 12th, the most recent figures have NA below SA. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 14 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: 2 hours ago, Thereisalight.. said: BBC sport reporting that fans may be allowed back at stadiums in England in December. I'll be astonished if this happens, but we seem to have heard the same pish every month since the 19/20 season ended The same England that just announced 600 deaths today, highest since early May. Aye crowds will be back down there in a fortnight !!! Nowhere near 600 actual daily deaths. Try half that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: Nowhere near 600 actual daily deaths. Try half that. Any idea how many deaths England are usually looking at, at this time of year ? Edited November 17, 2020 by Thereisalight.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Here's ours 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Blades Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 That’s my girlfriends son tested positive today. He’s 19 and had been self isolating (at ours) since Friday. Girlfriend works in a care home so not at all pleasant when you think of the potential consequences.He’s been really good & has confined to his room since Friday so fingers crossed we get through the two weeks self isolation without more cases in the house. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 The problem with looking at very localised data is that things can change relatively quickly.A good example.On 30 October, Ardler & St Mary's had one of the lowest 7-day rates of infection in Dundee - 1-4 cases and 30-49 per 100,000By 14 November, it had one of the worst 7-day rates of infection in Dundee - 23 cases and a rate of infection of 379 per 100,000.It's probably the reason for the gradual creeping up of the infection rate in Dundee over the past few days. I haven't got time to look at other LAs - is something similar happening there as well? Localised clusters driving up rates (or slowing down rate drops)? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said: Any idea how many deaths England are usually looking at, at this time of year ? Over the course of a year the daily average is around 1,500 So somewhere around there. The covid numbers are largely meaningless in that context, though, for however long they aren't accompanied by total daily death numbers, and continue to be a measure of anyone who dies of any cause within 28 days of a positive test. Edited November 17, 2020 by Todd_is_God 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szamo's_Ammo Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: The problem with looking at very localised data is that things can change relatively quickly. A good example. On 30 October, Ardler & St Mary's had one of the lowest 7-day rates of infection in Dundee - 1-4 cases and 30-49 per 100,000 By 14 November, it had one of the worst 7-day rates of infection in Dundee - 23 cases and a rate of infection of 379 per 100,000. @G_Man1985 quit with the house parties please. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Over the course of a year the daily average is around 1,500 So somewhere around there. The covid numbers are largely meaningless for however long they aren't accompanied by total daily death numbers, and continue to be a measure of anyone who dies of any cause within 28 days of a positive test.The 28 days positive may be misleading in some cases - people who would have died in any case who happened to test positive.What would be more relevant would be the average expected length of life lost due to Covid-19 death. Is anyone researching this? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) Can't go outdoors to the football as it's dangerous and we need to save Christmas, but this is perfectly fine and definitely not driving the spread. Edited November 17, 2020 by Todd_is_God 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin.Hood Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 20 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: The problem with looking at very localised data is that things can change relatively quickly. A good example. On 30 October, Ardler & St Mary's had one of the lowest 7-day rates of infection in Dundee - 1-4 cases and 30-49 per 100,000 By 14 November, it had one of the worst 7-day rates of infection in Dundee - 23 cases and a rate of infection of 379 per 100,000. Turriff nursing home..... Plus put that in Downfield... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest_Man#1 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Didn’t realise tier 3 were also in the travel restriction zone. That’s probably the staycation next weekend out of the window. Still not decided entirely whether to still go or cancel it. Not bothered about the travelling bit, but if we don’t say anything then show up at the hotels it might be a bit awkward. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Nowhere near 600 actual daily deaths. Try half that.It was 598 announced today no idea what twist you are putting on that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 According to the SG agenda for tomorrow the piece below will form the Swinney address to the chamber, additional funding and testing no mention of closures or blended.Safe SchoolsAs an amendment to motion S5M-23385 in the name of Ross Greer (Safe Schools), leave out from second "expresses" to end and insert "commends the work of local government and the Scottish Government in the recruitment of an additional 1,250 teachers and 155 support staff, with an estimated 200 further teachers and 100 support staff in the pipeline; further commends COSLA and the Scottish Government for continuing to work in partnership to ensure sufficient teaching and support staff in schools; recognises the Scottish Government’s commitment to provide an additional £155 million for the COVID response in school education while awaiting the outcome of a COSLA-led exercise on additional costs incurred by local authorities in relation to school safety; notes that testing is available for asymptomatic teachers who have concerns, and commits to exploring how to expand testing further for teachers and other school staff; expresses its gratitude to teachers and other school staff for the professionalism and dedication they have shown to keep schools open safely, and thereby continuing to protect the development, wellbeing and educational progress of children and young people; welcomes the Health and Safety Executive’s very positive feedback about the work done by school staff to implement the school safety guidance, following a programme of independent spot-checks and inspections, and further welcomes the findings of the Connect parent/carer ‘back at school survey’ where 70% of respondents feel school is going well for their child." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: 46 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: Nowhere near 600 actual daily deaths. Try half that. It was 598 announced today no idea what twist you are putting on that. Stating that the number announced each day is not reflective of the number of actual deaths per day is not a twist. "Well why can't it happen, there were only 160 the other day?" would be an example of a twist. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maicoman Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 59 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: 1 hour ago, Ron Aldo said: Latest 7 day rates. Level 4 definitely required. Look at all that stubbornness. North Ayrshire higher than South on every measure yet it's SA that gets put up ! Must have something to do where wee Nickys maw and paw live 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Stating that the number announced each day is not reflective of the number of actual deaths per day is not a twist. "Well why can't it happen, there were only 160 the other day?" would be an example of a twist.It's irrelevant the people have still died. The date / order they announce them makes no difference to that.598 were ANNOUNCED today then to keep you happy. Still will be no return to crowds in England in 2 weeks given these numbers which is what was being discussed before your pedantic interjection. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Turriff nursing home..... Plus put that in Downfield... I know it's that - as I said - very deceptive. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David W Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 26 minutes ago, ThatBoyRonaldo said: The EIS is the most powerful union in Scotland - fair enough relatively speaking that may not be saying much but did they not win something mental like a 10% pay rise just last year when it looked like there was a real threat of a strike? If they can mobilise you well enough for blended learning you never know. They were in a strong position and bottled it, given the unprecedented support they had from the teaching sector. They ended up recommending we accept an offer that was fundamentally no better than one we had just rejected but which looked better in the headlines. Their absence as a strong union throughout the summer exams fiasco, the return to schools and the bungling SQA's dilly dallying over this year's assessment is disgraceful. In more positive news a (non peer reviewed) study suggests immunity may last for years: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/17/health/coronavirus-immunity.html 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Szamo's_Ammo said: Those bloody Canadians! These figures are with Toronto schools mandating face masks and an element of remote learning. Frightening. An extra point to note is that the first set of data on August 30th - before the schools went back - actually the 14-17 group had the highest positivity rate even then. Isn't that unusual? Did Toronto keep the schools open through wave one? Edited November 17, 2020 by renton 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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