Lyle Lanley Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Considering a lot of buses start from Midlothian and East Lothian which go into the city of Edinburgh. I wonder how Police Scotland will handle people travelling on buses from let's say, Tranent to Murrayfield. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) On 29/10/2020 at 10:35, yoda said: The P&B pseuds still peddling the Sweden myth  Edited November 17, 2020 by yoda 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Pagan being a lazy word used by intolerant Christians lumping all non Christian religions pre dating the spread of Christianity into one word. Nearly every religion around the world celebrated the winter solstice in their own way and when Christianity spread it became convenient to have both the solstice celebration and the birth of Jesus on the same day even though no one actually knows for sure the day when he was born. Much of what we think of as the ideal Christmas is a Victorian creation, a Dickensian Christmas card illusion that has gradually evolved into the retail opportunities, materialism and the stress monster over 150 years.Never mind not knowing the day he was born, we don't actually know if he was ever born at all ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 There’s plenty of exceptions and reasons why you are allowed to travel to different areas which is why enforcement of this will be next to non existent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 20 minutes ago, Detournement said: That's all that people want here. The ability to choose and assess your own risk. And the responsibility and awareness to assess your risk to other people. That's where it falls down on a Saturday night, and why Sweden are making pubs and restaurants close early and telling people to avoid shops and public transport. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jedi Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) Its okay though...infection rate in schools have only risen by 675% since August, so closing gyms, shops, keeping the pubs shut, as well as restaurants,non-League football behind closed doors etc should do the trick in the next 3 weeks. Still, when you have a populist government it's all about keeping their eyes on those polling numbers, Meanwhile in Europe, Austria chooses to close schools... Edited November 17, 2020 by Jedi 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyrExile Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 It was good to find out that Scotland is performing much better than most of the Uk and many countries in Europe. All that hard work and effort being recognised in more restrictions 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 https://twitter.com/policescotland/status/1328740151573565445?s=20 Interesting read. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Jedi said: Its okay though...infection rate in schools have only risen by 675% since August, so closing gyms, shops, keeping the pubs shut, as well as restaurants, should do the trick in the next 3 weeks. Still, when you have a populist government it's all about keeping their eyes on those polling numbers, Meanwhile in Europe, Austria chooses to close schools... I don't get how closing pubs, restaurants, gyms and shops will boost their polling numbers. Doesn't sound very populist to me. And considering schools were closed before August a big increase in infections since then isn't exactly surprising. Edited November 17, 2020 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jedi said: Its okay though...infection rate in schools have only risen by 675% since August, so closing gyms, shops, keeping the pubs shut, as well as restaurants,non-League football behind closed doors etc should do the trick in the next 3 weeks. Still, when you have a populist government it's all about keeping their eyes on those polling numbers, Meanwhile in Europe, Austria chooses to close schools... The R rate is under 1 in Lanarkshire despite schools being open. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jedi Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Its the schools element which is primarily populist....also the fact that they are citing the need for further restrictions now to 'save' Christmas. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jedi Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Detournement said: The R rate is under 1 in Lanarkshire despite schools being open. Thats one area,,,,what about the 675% rise and the fact that in England where we have data, 40% of infections are coming from education (including obviously colleges and uni's, while 4% is from hospitality) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Just now, Jedi said: Thats one area,,,,what about the 675% rise and the fact that in England where we have data, 40% of infections are coming from education (including obviously colleges and uni's, while 4% is from hospitality) 675% since the day they opened? Shocking..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry94 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, Jedi said: Its okay though...infection rate in schools have only risen by 675% since August, so closing gyms, shops, keeping the pubs shut, as well as restaurants,non-League football behind closed doors etc should do the trick in the next 3 weeks. Still, when you have a populist government it's all about keeping their eyes on those polling numbers, Meanwhile in Europe, Austria chooses to close schools... And how are infections in schools impacting on health care utilisation? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 On 16/11/2020 at 10:27, MP_MFC said: Can't wait for the heads gone when Inverclyde gets punted into tier 4 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jedi Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, harry94 said: And how are infections in schools impacting on health care utilisation? You mean school staff and pupils dont need to use the NHS....thats handy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 hour ago, renton said: No, I argued it was better than the English version because we didn't outsource it. Though it doesn't matter how effective the app, or how many contacts you trace, you won't catch asymptomatic cases that way. I know they've had trouble with the English app but in some ways it's better, automatically lets you snap the QR code when you go into a pub without faffing about. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Look its clear there isnt the political will to close the schools right now. But why the f**k are they not all wearing masks and why are they allowed to go out in massive groups at lunchtimes etc? Is there honestly any posters who want to argue that you can’t explain to a massive majority of 13yo+ kids in high schools that they need to wear a mask? Why do we not have mass testing? Vaccine can’t come fucking quick enough. Anyone who even remotely agrees ‘lock down so we can have christmas dinner’ is a w****r. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 hour ago, renton said: I think 11th December is probably late as they dare go. "Saving Christmas" isn't about family visits or churches. It's about retail. You're utterly deluded if you think that a two week window is going to save retail. They are monumentally fucked and will collapse like a house of cards in January. The clear retail winner from this is Amazon's Black Friday event (smaller online stockists are available: try ABE Books for example) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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