jimbaxters Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, sparky88 said: What's the worst that could happen ? Don't know but that wasn't my point. You were playing fast & loose with a business you don't own. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Gyms getting shut in Liverpool guarantees Sturgeon will be pulling the plug up here asap. Gutted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Just now, jimbaxters said: Don't know but that wasn't my point. You were playing fast & loose with a business you don't own. That's exactly what the Scottish Government are doing, especially when they don't have all the levers available to them to mitigate the damage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, Detournement said: Gyms getting shut in Liverpool guarantees Sturgeon will be pulling the plug up here asap. Gutted. That's usually the other way around no? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Interesting this appears on the same day Burnham and the Manchester MPs all had a good moan about the measures being increased. Liverpool Council has seemingly signed off on them. Measures to be reviewed every month but may last six months. I think that's the first bit of honesty we've seen about how long this may end up taking tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, welshbairn said: That's usually the other way around no? She won't be able to sleep at night if we have something to do in Scotland that is shut down South. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 So, which pubs in Helensburgh have beer gardens? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H Wragg Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 So, which pubs in Helensburgh have beer gardens?The Commodore. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Again though, these Liverpool measures miss one of the elephants in the room - students. There are four universities in Liverpool and I've no doubt that this has driven the increase in cases. Test all the students - anyone negative can go home to their parents unless they really have to be on university grounds. Fine and well shutting pubs, cinemas etc but keeping 20,000 students or whatever in the city and giving them nothing to do will be disastrous. Cases will keep coming from flat parties as everyone succumbs to utter boredom. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 7 day rolling average?As opposed to the 7 day trolling average that some have? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 This is the problem. This here. So the “wEe NipPy sToLe oUr PiNtS” patter can away and shite. I’m all for vT’s trademarked ‘Baton to the face’ . (I know the Record is a rag) Anyone doing this has a serious problem and should seek help immediately. I can almost guarantee that not the angle the Record came at it from.It’s the usual piss poor journalism. It’s a non story in that the impact of a few bevvy merchants travelling out with region for a drink has negligible impact on the overall spread of Covid. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 9 hours ago, s_dog said: That's good because neither newly people tested nor total tests gives an accurate percentage. Seen a post on twitter from a coronavirus stats guy saying he was going to start using a blend of both, but trying to figure out his reasoning just gave me a sore head. Fixed that bit for accuracy. I've seen this article picked up as being one of the best at explaining how the virus is spreading. Interesting that because they knew they had limited testing capacity, Japan looked at the backward tracing aspect to try and find the source of a cluster and stopping that person spreading it, and it seems to have worked a whole lot better. It makes the forward contract tracing we are doing look a bit daft in comparison. Dr John Snow did that in the 1840s in London to find out why one block got cholera and the neighbouring block didn't. It turned out the water from the cholera affected block came from a well that drew from the polluted Thames and the healthy block drew water from a well which was connected to a spring. Anyway this is how epidemiology started. It's odd how only the Japanese seem to have remembered this particular history lesson 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 12 hours ago, pandarilla said: So are the cases going down - or is it the old statistical anomaly based on which day it is? ... Too early to be sure. Best to give it 2 to 3 weeks before it can confidently be identified as the signal rather than random noise. Last time it looked like things were peaking on new case numbers it soon turned out that there was an Excel spreadsheet issue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Seen this thread regarding the impact of Uni students: At this point sending students home is probably more dangerous than leaving them where they are. I do wonder if the circuit breaker is asmuch about keeping students out of hospitality and mixing as anything else. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Chinese don't f**k about when it comes to testing. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/10/12/china-to-test-entire-city-of-qingdao-after-covid-19-cases-appear?taid=5f83d4cb482cc900012d7d23&utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 The Chinese figures over the summer surely can't be right? Unless it's all a load of bollocks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest_Man#1 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, renton said: Seen this thread regarding the impact of Uni students: At this point sending students home is probably more dangerous than leaving them where they are. I do wonder if the circuit breaker is asmuch about keeping students out of hospitality and mixing as anything else. I do wonder if there is actually some sense in keeping students in halls of residence for a while. Let it rip through a healthy population who’ll see very limited effects and help (hopefully) build up immunity. The issue with the above is that they will obviously socialise outside of the halls which will spread to the rest of the population, and it is pretty unacceptable to keep them penned in there forever. Also puts the people who work in these environments at risk (like me, even though I’m not frontline I’m still around them constantly). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 The Chinese figures over the summer surely can't be right? Unless it's all a load of bollocks. China have done all the right things.If this had started in europe it would be alot worse as well.I believe their numbers tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 I do wonder if there is actually some sense in keeping students in halls of residence for a while. Let it rip through a healthy population who’ll see very limited effects and help (hopefully) build up immunity. The issue with the above is that they will obviously socialise outside of the halls which will spread to the rest of the population, and it is pretty unacceptable to keep them penned in there forever. Also puts the people who work in these environments at risk (like me, even though I’m not frontline I’m still around them constantly). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 22 minutes ago, Honest_Man#1 said: I do wonder if there is actually some sense in keeping students in halls of residence for a while. Let it rip through a healthy population who’ll see very limited effects and help (hopefully) build up immunity. The issue with the above is that they will obviously socialise outside of the halls which will spread to the rest of the population, and it is pretty unacceptable to keep them penned in there forever. Also puts the people who work in these environments at risk (like me, even though I’m not frontline I’m still around them constantly). Lock them in their student unions for 2 weeks and let them get on with it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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