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4 hours ago, Big Fifer said:

Maybe I've missed it but I've not seen them talking about the household bubbles for a very long time, wasn't really aware they were still a thing. 

Of course they are still a thing, a household should have been within 1m or anyone or another house hold since March. The bubbles allow couples living apart to see each other etc.

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8 minutes ago, WhiteRoseKillie said:

I've been imagining that since Day One of this shambles, and, while I am an unashamed Socialist of long standing*, I honestly struggle to single out even one policy or action of this Government which has not proved to be the worst of all possible choices. Even the helpful stuff such as the Furlough scheme, has been presented as Wingnut Rishi being some benevolent financial genius, rather than the Party of Fiscal Responsibility ensuring our descendants will be hampered with this debt fo multiple generations. As for Eat out to Help Out - quite apart from more debt being piled onto the excequer, in whose mind was having everybody and their mates getting together to renew acquaintance and share infection a good idea?

Simply put, and it really is simple - we kept numbers down through control measures. If we loosen those control measures without implementing other measures, infections will rise and spread will soon get back to pre-lockdown levels. We aren't getting "back" to anything - even allowing you could get thousands upon thousands of commuters into city centres safely, how the blue fúck are you going to get them up into the dozens of floors of the blocks where they work? The employers overwhelmingly have been pleasantly surprised that their drones have performed quite acceptbly while working remotely.  Pret and Costa are fúcked, and they're probably getting used to the idea and planning alternative business models. Those commercial landlords who rely on income from office space in city centres? Fúck 'em, they're parasites.

*And even longer sitting down (S. Milligan)

Borrowing costs are pretty low at the moment (0.5% or thereabouts) so the furlough scheme shouldn't add astronomical amounts of debt or at least won't cost huge ammounts to service.  The alternative is to lay off millions of people, with all the affect that would have on increased welfare payments, loss of economic activity, failing businesses etc.  It's effectively a money transfer from the government to people to avoid complete catastrophe and help stop the virus.

Regarding Eat Out To Help Out, the cost of that, compared to other measures, is relatively low (about £500m) and it has had a huge affect on hospitality.  Again, balance the costs out against the dangers of destroying the restaurant and allied sectors.  I don't think there's any solid evidence that this spiked infection rates significantly - the rates were beginning to rise during August anyway and the places that have seen increases have had other causes - people meeting in houses for example.

 

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Just now, Michael W said:

Todd may not be available currently, so never fear. Here's a graph of the current infection rates broken down by age (England only). 

There is of course a clear acceleration point and also some sharp increases in the younger groups. 

 

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f**k sake.

He’ll not like that.

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2 hours ago, Jacksgranda said:

@Sergeant Wilson

@Melanius Mullarkey

@kingjoey

@Dee Man

@topcat(The most tip top)

I could really do with 10, tbqh, maybe I'll just break the rules like everyone else.

I don’t know what to say! Well I do really, it will be an honour to take my place inside your bubble. I hope that Jack is very proud of you.

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44 minutes ago, WhiteRoseKillie said:

I've been imagining that since Day One of this shambles, and, while I am an unashamed Socialist of long standing*, I honestly struggle to single out even one policy or action of this Government which has not proved to be the worst of all possible choices. Even the helpful stuff such as the Furlough scheme, has been presented as Wingnut Rishi being some benevolent financial genius, rather than the Party of Fiscal Responsibility ensuring our descendants will be hampered with this debt fo multiple generations. As for Eat out to Help Out - quite apart from more debt being piled onto the excequer, in whose mind was having everybody and their mates getting together to renew acquaintance and share infection a good idea?

Simply put, and it really is simple - we kept numbers down through control measures. If we loosen those control measures without implementing other measures, infections will rise and spread will soon get back to pre-lockdown levels. We aren't getting "back" to anything - even allowing you could get thousands upon thousands of commuters into city centres safely, how the blue fúck are you going to get them up into the dozens of floors of the blocks where they work? The employers overwhelmingly have been pleasantly surprised that their drones have performed quite acceptbly while working remotely.  Pret and Costa are fúcked, and they're probably getting used to the idea and planning alternative business models. Those commercial landlords who rely on income from office space in city centres? Fúck 'em, they're parasites.

*And even longer sitting down (S. Milligan)

As long as pension schemes haven't invested in them, or are commercial landlords in their own right, I'm sure there will be no consequences for anyone else.

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2 minutes ago, kingjoey said:

I don’t know what to say! Well I do really, it will be an honour to take my place inside your bubble. I hope that Jack is very proud of you.

Jack's not in a great mood at the minute, confined to barracks awaiting his wee sister's Covid-19 results. He's only started back at Tech, so that's been knocked on the head, although one of his mates is away in despite his younger brother having been sent home from school with a cough. Not sure if it's the same class or even school as Jack's wee sister.

Unless everyone is playing by the same rules this thing is never going to be hit on the head.

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9 minutes ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said:

Johnson rushing back from Umbria to give an oral statement tomorrow.

I'd rather he gave a statement through the medium of dance.

 

This has been in my head for the last couple of hours. Thank you @ICTChris.

You don't have to act like a star
Tryin' moves in the back of your car
Don't you know that we can go far
'Cause tonight you gonna get my- COVID

~Patrick Vallance, 2002

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2 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said:

As long as pension schemes haven't invested in them, or are commercial landlords in their own right, I'm sure there will be no consequences for anyone else.

Of course there will be consequences - and I'm looking at three years before I can get my hands on my pension, so I could well be affected. Capitalism has been eating itself for a few years though, and this pandemic could well be the catalyst which brings forward the inevitable reckoning and, hopefully, reset. It's not like the working classes haven't been suffering for decades under this system, so for me a bit more pain will be made more bearable if those who have lived off others' efforts end up in the gutter. I repeat - fúck 'em.

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2 minutes ago, MixuFruit said:

Fun to see commercial landlords and Holly Valance mentioned in the same page given she's married to one of the most venal, mendacious  ones of the lot:

I was just researching her on Google and read that as well. Very disappointed.

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9 minutes ago, MixuFruit said:

Fun to see commercial landlords and Holly Valance mentioned in the same page given she's married to one of the most venal, mendacious  ones of the lot:

Nick Candy sparks row with Chelsea neighbours by planting trees to protect  privacy of wife Holly Valance

Who is Nicky Whelan married to? She is literally all that matters in the field of ex Neighbours 10/10s 

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