Cosmic Joe Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 59 minutes ago, The Moonster said: Are they not just trying to keep classes as clean as possible to try and limit the spread if there is someone infected there? You can't seriously say that wiping down desks will have no effect other than "it's good PR"? In his head, he probably can 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 30 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: Unless they plan on also wiping down every chair, wall, door and handrail immediately after anyone touches them too then it's a PR exercise. Sanitise your hands when you enter the classroom, don't bite your nails during a lesson, and don't lick the desks. £30k saved. Well its not practical to wipe down every single surface someone might touch, but wiping down the stuff that is practical to do surely will help prevent spread? Not every student will touch the handrails or walls but they will touch their desks and chairs. You just seem set on picking holes in absolutely everything that happens and trying to make it out as a shambles. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Aye I'm going to read that Graeber book eventually. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, Detournement said: The media going from we need to end vaccine scepticism to we need to end NATO produced vaccine scepticism overnight is impressive contortion. A vaccine tested on 36 people producing multiple side effects, and given out before phase 3 trials have been completed if even started, could certainly increase vaccine scepticism if it goes wrong. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02386-2 Here's an interesting bit of dialect from the BBC on it. https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/world-53739083 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, The Moonster said: Well its not practical to wipe down every single surface someone might touch, but wiping down the stuff that is practical to do surely will help prevent spread? Not every student will touch the handrails or walls but they will touch their desks and chairs. You just seem set on picking holes in absolutely everything that happens and trying to make it out as a shambles. If it doesn't 100% stop transmission on its own it's a stupid waste of time and money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Why should we bother with seatbelts and airbags in cars if they don't also enforce bulletproof armour and kevlar windows? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
printer Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Firing money into a kitty and then buying your own drinks individually from said kitty is up there with the most nonsensical thing i've ever heard. You new to P&B? Or at least never been on The Falkirk FC Thread? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP_MFC Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 A cluster of cases involving kids from Bannerman High...... SHUT THE SCHOOLS incoming. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, MP_MFC said: A cluster of cases involving kids from Bannerman High...... SHUT THE SCHOOLS incoming. Haha called it weeks ago. Exact same thing happened the day the schools opened in England "CLUSTER LINKED TO SCHOOL" Then you read the article to find the pupils haven't been in the school for months. Never change MSM -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 You're the one that's been greetin for months about not coming out of lockdown quick enough. Donate or something. I can't be the only one who thinks spending £30k on 4 months worth of wipes is a bit of a waste of money, considering the pupils have no requirement to social distance outwith the classroom (and then immediately wash their hands anyway). It's a thing for the sake of being seen to be doing a thing. There are surely far better things that schools can spend £30k a term on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Just now, AUFC90 said: You're the one that's been greetin for months about not coming out of lockdown quick enough. Donate or something. Red dot duly donated -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
printer Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Teacher estimates weren't wildly out everywhere though - in my school we were about 80% accurate while in another school in the region they were just over 50% accurate. I'm probably missing something, but why weren't estimates 100% accurate? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, printer said: I'm probably missing something, but why weren't estimates 100% accurate? If they were 100% accurate then they would not be estimates. HTH 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Detournement said: Aye I'm going to read that Graeber book eventually. Knew there was something I had forgot to torrent 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 1 hour ago, welshbairn said: A vaccine tested on 36 people producing multiple side effects, and given out before phase 3 trials have been completed if even started, could certainly increase vaccine scepticism if it goes wrong. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02386-2 Here's an interesting bit of dialect from the BBC on it. https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/world-53739083 Reading about it the phase 3 trial is about to begin and only 2000 people are in the first stage. It can't be used en mass until January (and can obviously be pulled before then). The Oxford-Astra Zeneca vaccine is being tested on 1000 people just now. It's not that different. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 BBC gone full click bait, none of the children had been at the school for well over 100 days they just happen to know the other cases from school 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 14 minutes ago, Detournement said: Reading about it the phase 3 trial is about to begin and only 2000 people are in the first stage. It can't be used en mass until January (and can obviously be pulled before then). The Oxford-Astra Zeneca vaccine is being tested on 1000 people just now. It's not that different. They're being considerably more transparent on their testing so far, and are looking at 30,000 in total, not sure on the current numbers but have at least 4000 signed up in the UK, and have started in Brazil and South Africa. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31604-4/fulltext https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2020-06-28-trial-oxford-covid-19-vaccine-starts-brazil 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuckleMoo Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Reading about it the phase 3 trial is about to begin and only 2000 people are in the first stage. It can't be used en mass until January (and can obviously be pulled before then). The Oxford-Astra Zeneca vaccine is being tested on 1000 people just now. It's not that different. Nah, the AstraZeneca UK trial has 4000 participants with a further 10,000 to be included within the UK. Brazil have a further 5000 enrolled at the moment and you would expect that to increase by many thousands more in the coming months https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2020-06-28-trial-oxford-covid-19-vaccine-starts-brazil# Edit: Welshbairn beat me to it! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 A cluster of cases involving kids from Bannerman High...... SHUT THE SCHOOLS incoming. There is a suggestion it's linked via a "gathering " to the Low Moss prison outbreak. Not a thing to do with the school despite the headline. At my sons school today they held the traditional 1st year parade. The newbies are paraded through the school by pipers. Good to see they are keeping it as normal as possible. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 2 hours ago, The Moonster said: You just seem set on picking holes in absolutely everything that happens and trying to make it out as a shambles. It doesn’t fit his narrative, you see. Whatever that may be. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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