mizfit Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 MP on BBC news saying that they’re debating whether or not to remove quarantine requirements for the Spanish islands. Also said that they’re expecting the British public to be sensible when it comes to quarantining. To which the Presenter said they’d have viewers contact saying they were being told by bosses to go into work or they’d lose their job despite quarantining. The MP had no response. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 1 minute ago, mizfit said: MP on BBC news saying that they’re debating whether or not to remove quarantine requirements for the Spanish islands. Also said that they’re expecting the British public to be sensible when it comes to quarantining. To which the Presenter said they’d have viewers contact saying they were being told by bosses to go into work or they’d lose their job despite quarantining. The MP had no response. I've a bit of sympathy with folk who have been caught out by this. On the other hand, I don't think folk should have been travelling abroad for a holiday, tbqh. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldbitterandgrumpy Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 11 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: I've a bit of sympathy with folk who have been caught out by this. On the other hand, I don't think folk should have been travelling abroad for a holiday, tbqh. Folk should most definitely not have been travelling abroad for a holiday. They knew before they went that the advice was subject to change at short notice. No sympathy whatsoever. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Folk should most definitely not have been travelling abroad for a holiday. They knew before they went that the advice was subject to change at short notice. No sympathy whatsoever. If I see one more greeting face on TV saying teary eyed that they needed / deserved their week on the piss in Benidorm because they have "worked right through lockdown" I will throw something at the TV. So have millions not even contemplating a foreign holiday in the midst of a global pandemic and doesn't everyone normally work right through the months of March to July ? This I've worked right through lockdown shite is total bullshit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 You must be pretty fucking w**k at your job if your employer would rather get rid of you than allow you to extend your annual leave for a couple of weeks (or take unpaid leave if you don’t have enough holiday left) -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: 22 minutes ago, oldbitterandgrumpy said: Folk should most definitely not have been travelling abroad for a holiday. They knew before they went that the advice was subject to change at short notice. No sympathy whatsoever. If I see one more greeting face on TV saying teary eyed that they needed / deserved their week on the piss in Benidorm because they have "worked right through lockdown" I will throw something at the TV. So have millions not even contemplating a foreign holiday in the midst of a global pandemic and doesn't everyone normally work right through the months of March to July ? This I've worked right through lockdown shite is total bullshit. There were 3 or 4 interviewed on Radio Ulster this morning who had been caught out, but only 1 was really whiny. Edited July 27, 2020 by Jacksgranda sllepnig 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 (edited) Ultimately there is a risk of this happening when you go on holiday. The more substantial risk if you're away for an extended period of time is that there is a possibility of a border closure. It's a known risk. I have no problem at all with anyone taking a holiday abroad. It's been a crap year and the weather since lockdown has been shite, for the most part. Moaning about government measures that are rightly applied when required just makes you look a bit of a dick tbh; yes they're annoying, but this is the reality we currently find ourselves in. Edited July 27, 2020 by Michael W 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Melanius Mullarkey said: In a B&B up north just now and the owner wifie has just entertained us with some tales of how 80% of Covid is transmitted through shoes. (Helmsdale if you’re planning on avoiding it) Get down the Bannockburn, the Cockney landlord will tell you it's all down to the blacks spreading it via hip hop. On second thoughts go down to Timespan for lunch by the river, tasty Polish stuffed pancakes. Edited July 27, 2020 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Allowing foreign holidays was a stupid idea. There is no real upside for the country as whole and it brings in a lot of complications. The fact that people were able to go and party in Magaluf and Ibiza but you still can't get into a gym here was absurd. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 12 minutes ago, Michael W said: Ultimately there is a risk of this happening when you go on holiday. The more substantial risk if you're away for an extended period of time is that there is a possibility of a border closure. It's a known risk. I have no problem at all with anyone taking a holiday abroad. It's been a crap year and the weather since lockdown has been shite, for the most part. Moaning about government measures that are rightly applied when required just makes you look a bit of a dick tbh; yes they're annoying, but this is the reality we currently find ourselves in. Our weather has been great, it's only this last 4 weeks it's been a bit iffy. Today it's piddling with rain, right enough. 9 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Get down the Bannockburn, the Cockney landlord will tell you it's all down to the blacks spreading it via hip hop. On second thoughts go down to Timespan for lunch by the river, tasty Polish stuffed pancakes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Furlough money being repaid - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-53552245 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musketeer Gripweed Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 I am one of those Orlando Facebook page things. Quite handy on the lead up to going there, but a pain in the bracket the rest of the time. Anyway, I deleted very early on in the pandemic when I got fed up reading things about their May and June holidays and how safe it would be to go. Not very, Judy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Should really ban non essential foreign travel until 2021 with full refunds.Not worth the risk of spreading the virus and also how good can a socially distanced holiday be?Feel sorry for people that got caught out and that's why it needs to be black or white. If you need to travel for business then quarantine. We are wasting resources like the police and the nhs so people can drink beer on a beach. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Should really ban non essential foreign travel until 2021 with full refunds.Not worth the risk of spreading the virus and also how good can a socially distanced holiday be?Feel sorry for people that got caught out and that's why it needs to be black or white. If you need to travel for business then quarantine. We are wasting resources like the police and the nhs so people can drink beer on a beach.Our holiday to Turkey was booked for the end of August. Back in March we decided to hold off and hope we’d be okay. The end of April we decided to cancel and take a refund and look nearer the time at other holidays. We’ve since decided to keep the time we took off and maybe go for a few day trips for something to do instead. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Been looking at the charts for hospital admissions. Some quite interesting stuff in there: 1) Numbers continuing to fall overall. 2) There is a very disproportionate amount of the new admissions taking place in Wales (approx 40% of all UK admissions on a daily basis) . Not sure what's going on there as the amount of new cases/deaths doesn't appear to be that high in Wales. 3) England with a small rise in hospital admissions against the previous week. 4) New admissions in Scotland very, very low reflecting the low number of cases. However there is a disproportionate number of people still in hospital for Covid, who presumably have been there quite a long time now for the most part. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldbitterandgrumpy Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said: Should really ban non essential foreign travel until 2021 with full refunds. Not worth the risk of spreading the virus and also how good can a socially distanced holiday be? Feel sorry for people that got caught out and that's why it needs to be black or white. If you need to travel for business then quarantine. We are wasting resources like the police and the nhs so people can drink beer on a beach. The advice was as black and white as it was possible to be, is as much as folk were warned that things could change even while they were abroad on holiday. Why take such a risk? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine Hibs Fan Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 (edited) As someone literally caught up in this Spain situation, which I'm sure in itself will be enough for some to think I'm a dick, anyone who's having more than a passing grumble about the changes, or is being caught out with the quarantine, is just being daft. It was clear to anyone who bothered to read that it was all subject to change at short notice, although there's got to be serious questions about a decision being made that ends up being reversed 6 days later. As for me I knew the risk, but also knew I'd be working from home and could comfortably stay in the flat for a couple of weeks when I get back if things went to shit. Not being allowed out for a walk or run is gonna have me a bit loopy, but I'll survive. I've said here and on other threads that if my parents didn't live here, I wouldn't have even considered travelling abroad. Even if they weren't a mile away from the nearest village and in some apartment block or condo complex at the coast I wouldn't have taken the chance. But it was worth the risk bearing in mind my circumstances at home. My girlfriend could have come but we decided it wasn't worth the risk for her. Edited July 27, 2020 by Genuine Hibs Fan 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 I'm meant to be off to Thailand in November but can't see it happening, they are still closed to international visitors and the other countries in the region have got 14 day quarantine in place, Cambodia make you give them $3000 US then start deducting charges from it. $100 for a test and $85 for accomodation at their specified place. If any one on the flight has tested positive you have to do 14 days at their place then have to pay for another test before release, I've had a few heads gone moments with customs in Cambodia and I wouldnt be surprised if every flight will produce at least 1 false positive. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 I'm booked to go out in September to the family apartment. I've only paid for flights so they can easily be rescheduled if necessary. If there's a quarantine I have plenty of holidays in hand to cover it. If there's a lockdown while I'm in Spain, I'm not in a hotel so no big deal. Only real consideration is no travel insurance if FCO continue to advise against. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 The advice was as black and white as it was possible to be, is as much as folk were warned that things could change even while they were abroad on holiday. Why take such a risk?I would say that still offering people the option makes it a grey area.The travel companies are in trouble and are carrying on as if nothing has happened.Won't judge anyone for travelling as the option is still on the table for them.Personally if someone was allowed back into my workplace after a foreign holiday from a high infection country id complain to hr and tell them its a health and safety issue that needs sorted.Reckon that we will look back if there is a second wave and say that this is a major f**k up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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