Guest bernardblack Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Nicola announcement tomorrow? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 10 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Finland scrapping quarantine and travel restrictions from most European countries, but not their neighbour Sweden where it's still too rampant. That little experiment went well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Nicola announcement tomorrow? Radio Tay saying she’s preparing to make an announcement re the next date for exiting lockdown. One does wonder if no increase from the BLM protests and statue defending has made their mind up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 36 minutes ago, Detournement said: Aye everyone has £800 quid worth of weights at home! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 19 minutes ago, Ron Aldo said: 36 minutes ago, Detournement said: Aye everyone has £800 quid worth of weights at home! At the moment, you'd be lucky to get a barbell and a decent set of weights for £800! Got mine two years ago. Best purchase I ever made! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said: 161 is still (comparatively) a very high number of deaths, and the number of new cases is only decreasing slowly. Johnson is taking a bit of a risk with effectively abandoning restrictions. yep, us having 8% of the population we should be having 8% of the deaths , around 13 or 14 depending where you round. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 The pace beginning to quicken with low numbers is a good thing. The biggest obstacle to progress now will be folk shrieking that we need to lock down and bring furlough back as soon as theres an inevitable rise in cases. Falling back to using tracing etc to squash smaller outbreaks is absolutely the right thing to do. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainspotter Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, mizfit said: One does wonder if no increase from the BLM protests and statue defending has made their mind up. A quick glance at Thursday's weather forecast suggests that any pretence of adhering to lockdown rules and safe distancing will be in the bin, irrespective of what NS says. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: England 161 Scotland 4 Wales 5 NI 1 England..."scrap the 2m rule and open the pubs". Worth pointing a few things out here. Firstly, the UK total uses the previous day's total for Scotland. In this case the Scottish deaths included in the figure announced today is zero. Secondly, NHS England announced just 46 hospital deaths registered in the last 24 hours. I can't imagine hospital deaths in England make up just 28% of all Covid-19 deaths following a positive test, which is a pretty good indication a fair whack of that number is lagged PHE data from over the weekend. Now, more so than in previous weeks, understanding where the data comes from is important when understanding why WM appear to be making moves ahead of when the figures announced might suggest is wise. Edited June 23, 2020 by Todd_is_God 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 More deaths in England than the whole of Europe and Boris is forcing quarantine on people coming here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
engelbert_humperdink Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 At least when gyms reopen , it will be the end of the posers who spend 60 minutes posing in the mirror, strutting about and 10 minutes lifting weights. Gyms may actually be more bearable now 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefybake Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: The pace beginning to quicken with low numbers is a good thing. The biggest obstacle to progress now will be folk shrieking that we need to lock down and bring furlough back as soon as theres an inevitable rise in cases. Falling back to using tracing etc to squash smaller outbreaks is absolutely the right thing to do. Track and Trace never was a fall back position for any of the countries that have dealt successfully with corononavirus. It was right there as a highest priority. As of now, there is no proper functioning track and trace operation here in the UK, so it's not really even a fallback. Overall, what is being set up here is 'herd immunity' Mk2. Edited June 23, 2020 by beefybake 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, beefybake said: Track and Trace never was a fall back position for any of the countries that have dealt successfully with corononavirus. It was right there as a highest priority. As of now, there is no proper functioning track and trace operation here in the UK, so it's not really even a fallback. Overall, what is being set up here is 'herd immunity' Mk2. Boris did say in his waffle today that the nhs wouldnt be overwhelmed now so its ok 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 4 hours ago, The Moonster said: If schools go back as they normally would in August there is absolutely no reason football with crowds couldn't go ahead either. Well, apart from the fact that the demographic of the school attendance is that they are all under 18 and the demographic of football crowd attendances isn't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dundee Hibernian Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, Skyline Drifter said: Well, apart from the fact that the demographic of the school attendance is that they are all under 18 and the demographic of football crowd attendances isn't. What, the headmaster, teachers, cleaners, janny and dinner wifies people? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Ron Aldo said: I don't think it's unreasonable for those of us who enjoy the gym as a hobby to question why they can't reopen but pubs and restaurants can. Except that's not what you actually did but rather questioned 'the priorities of a country that puts the pub before health and fitness'. Which is utter bollocks. Not only is exercise unlimited in an outdoor space now - while pubs are still not allowed to use their own, private outdoor space to serve customers - but even during the height of the lockdown everyone was still entitled to take exercise outside of their homes once per day in addition to travelling for essential work and supplies. If there's one thing that the government has consistently recognised throughout it is the importance of continued exercise for people's physical and mental health and rightly so. They haven't been making any such concessions for the sesh. Quote Suggesting that you can exercise outside is the same as suggesting to someone desperate for the pubs to reopen that they just have a drink at home - there's a social aspect to both which people miss and it's not as straightforward as saying "you've had other options since day 1 of this". ^^^ needs more 'roids 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Dundee Hibernian said: What, the headmaster, teachers, cleaners, janny and dinner wifies people? Who are all there anyway. The kids coming in full time rather than part time and not social distanced and staggered timetables doesn't change that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dundee Hibernian Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, Skyline Drifter said: Who are all there anyway. The kids coming in full time rather than part time and not social distanced and staggered timetables doesn't change that. Presently, no they aren't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, Dundee Hibernian said: Presently, no they aren't. We are not discussing presently though, we're talking about August and they were due to be in August. The schools were opening, those people would have been working. Nothing announced today has changed anything for the staff. It has changed the ability of pupils to attend in bigger numbers and with less disruption (potentially, I know it's not a guarantee, but it is a lot more positive than the same man was less than 7 days ago). However, it's not remotely the same as allowing a much older football crowd to gather in the same numbers. That will be much further away. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Snafu said: From the Guardian - 14m ago 16:36 In a candid article on our website Alex Rushmer explains why he won’t be reopening his Cambridge restaurant on 4 July - despite what the PM announced this afternoon. Here’s an extract. A lack of clear decision-making at the start of the crisis gives me little confidence that the government will successfully negotiate our exit from it. Lockdown easing in places as diverse as Florida, Germany and Beijing hasresulted in infection spikes and increases in R rates. Covid-19 isn’t going away. With no guidance about how to reopen safely and no support network if lockdown measures need to be ratcheted up again, reopening a small independent restaurant is a gamble I cannot take. Track and trace presents a further issue. A diner displaying symptoms of Covid-19, or who tests positive (and informs the restaurant) presents us with significant decisions – both financial and health-related – that we do not have the skills, training or information to handle correctly. It should mean a mandatory two-week shutdown (in line with the current guidance for individuals) of the restaurant to prevent any further spread. The prospect of taking reservations, stocking a kitchen, preparing a menu, calling staff back from furlough and reopening, only to have to close again at a moment’s notice, is truly terrifying. That won't happen, the majority of restaurants in that situation will just carry on, nobody pays a blind bit of notice to what the Westminster government says, their defence of Cummings torpedoed that vessel, so isolation/lockdown advice will just be ignored, imo. Devolved governments have a bit more authority, I think. Edited June 23, 2020 by Jacksgranda sllepnig 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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