Todd_is_God Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 11 minutes ago, welshbairn said: So our new infection rate is pretty much the same as England's in proportion to population. Yes. But their deaths are disproportionately high 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Soft southern twats. You look at the Euromomo site, which basically has a z score for excess death. England's is way higher than the other UK nations... Edited June 10, 2020 by renton 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, bendan said: Or that the threshold for hospitalisation is lower now there's no threat of being overrun? Hospital admissions have reduced drastically to just 6 per day. Around 18% of hospital beds in Scotland are currently empty, normally they would be almost 100% occupied. It's obvious people who are getting Covid-19 are not becoming as sick. But this will be due to a number of factors. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Would any of you voluntarily put yourself and/or your family forward to take a proposed vaccine for coronavirus? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Todd_is_God said: Hospital admissions have reduced drastically to just 6 per day. Around 18% of hospital beds in Scotland are currently empty, normally they would be almost 100% occupied. It's obvious people who are getting Covid-19 are not becoming as sick. But this will be due to a number of factors. Probably just lower viral load due to social distancing. There would be evidence of the virus mutating to a less harmful form if it had, there are loads of people checking that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Aldo Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 So far as phase 2 goes, I'm really not fussed about the pubs reopening. They'll be absolutely mobbed and sitting in a beer garden (which, for most, will likely be the car park with some seats in it) doesn't sound too appealing.I'd much rather be able to get my haircut, go the gym or get a game of 5s. Hopefully the current trend continues and phase 3 is only a few weeks away! 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, sjc said: Would any of you voluntarily put yourself and/or your family forward to take a proposed vaccine for coronavirus? If it had passed all the safety tests and if it worked, of course. And the next day I'd be off on holiday. Edited June 10, 2020 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Would any of you voluntarily put yourself and/or your family forward to take a proposed vaccine for coronavirus?Good question. No. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Probably just lower viral load due to social distancing. There would be evidence of the virus mutating to a less harmful form if it had, there are loads of people checking that. Symptomatic people isolating will also have an effect 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: Good question. No. Did you give your children the usual jags? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: Good question. No. I'm with you on this. 3 minutes ago, welshbairn said: If it had passed all the safety tests and if it worked, of course. And the next day I'd be off on holiday. Given the timescales, chances of safety testing qualification is slim I'd say! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Just now, welshbairn said: Did you give your children the usual jags? Ah the old "anti vaxer" shaming?! Would you have said the same of thalidomide? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thistle_do_nicely Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 6 hours ago, coprolite said: It's the other disgusting things you need to worry about. They ram cattle full of growth hormone to get more meat. Think of the giant steak that John Candy eats in The Great Outdoors and extrapolate what size of cow that must have been. And they make them eat a spine in a bap. MONDO BURGER 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Have some faith in Magic Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 11 minutes ago, Ron Aldo said: So far as phase 2 goes, I'm really not fussed about the pubs reopening. They'll be absolutely mobbed and sitting in a beer garden (which, for most, will likely be the car park with some seats in it) doesn't sound too appealing. I'd much rather be able to get my haircut, go the gym or get a game of 5s. Hopefully the current trend continues and phase 3 is only a few weeks away! Personally I will wear a hat whilst running to the pub. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super_carson Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, sjc said: Would any of you voluntarily put yourself and/or your family forward to take a proposed vaccine for coronavirus? I think this is a fairly valid question, particularly in terms of any vaccine's long-term success. I remember reading somewhere this week that any vaccine would require around 70% of people to be vaccinated in order for it to be effective in controlling an outbreak. Given this vaccine could, potentially, be develop in months instead of years there are bound to be people who are hesitant to accept it. They may feel it hasn't been tested extensively enough, added to that your usual anti-vax brigade and those who may not be able to have the vaccine on medical grounds and there is the potential for there not being enough of the population being vaccinated to generate the herd-immunity. It's something governments should be trying to gauge in terms of public opinion. There's no point in holding out for a vaccine when there may not be enough people willing to have it for it to be effective. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 13 minutes ago, sjc said: Would any of you voluntarily put yourself and/or your family forward to take a proposed vaccine for coronavirus? I probably would put myself forward aye. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, sjc said: I'm with you on this. Given the timescales, chances of safety testing qualification is slim I'd say! The new techniques using RNA templates (or something, no expert) I think mean they're pretty well guaranteed to be safe before starting. Anyway, probably safer for me than catching the virus with my immunity (or lack of). Edited June 10, 2020 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, sjc said: Ah the old "anti vaxer" shaming?! Would you have said the same of thalidomide? No, just curious. Would you refuse any new drug then? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 13 minutes ago, Ron Aldo said: I'd much rather be able to get my haircut, go the gym or get a game of 5s. Hopefully the current trend continues and phase 3 is only a few weeks away! True. It's slightly annoying though that we are seemingly tied to the three weekly reviews to move forward all the same. We wouldn't wait 11 days to move backwards. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, welshbairn said: No, just curious. Would you refuse any new drug then? Yes I would and given that I've spent the last 5 months pumping my veins with poison on a biweekly basis, I'd say that's quite telling. 5 minutes ago, welshbairn said: The new techniques using RNA templates (or something, no expert) I think mean they're pretty well guaranteed to be safe before starting. Anyway, probably safer for me than catching the virus with my immunity (or lack of). You should look into the reasons why the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation have been chased out of India and Central Africa! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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