bendan Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 14 minutes ago, Wee Bully said: Why? All joking apart, what real benefit would it bring? Would it make the science better? Bring a cure about faster? Make the graphs look nicer? It's the reason we have a rolling 7 day average It's the reason people calculate the 7day rolling average. I don't think the government provide it. I'd say the reason to provide proper figures is because you are releasing them daily. If it doesn't matter, then it also doesn't matter if you simply don't release stats at weekends. They could drop the daily briefings. Will testing and tracing stop at the weekend? You'd hope not. It's supposed to be a national emergency, so demonstrating some kind of 24/7 response seems appropriate to me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 https://twitter.com/RealMattLucas/status/1259566662791106569 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throbber Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: https://twitter.com/RealMattLucas/status/1259566662791106569 I can’t stop watching that but it’s sad how accurate it actually is. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkmenbashi Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 14 minutes ago, Dunning1874 said: This fucking thread The first fucking reply 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 I can’t stop watching that but it’s sad how accurate it actually is. Go outside, dont go outside. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Bully Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 10 minutes ago, bendan said: It's the reason people calculate the 7day rolling average. I don't think the government provide it. I'd say the reason to provide proper figures is because you are releasing them daily. If it doesn't matter, then it also doesn't matter if you simply don't release stats at weekends. They could drop the daily briefings. Will testing and tracing stop at the weekend? You'd hope not. It's supposed to be a national emergency, so demonstrating some kind of 24/7 response seems appropriate to me. The government provides a 7 day rolling average. I would stop the daily briefings over the weekend anyway (which i think they had started to do in Scotland). If there is no new information, then why have them. I get the idea right at the start, but it is pretty samey now. I'm not sure why testing and tracing are being held up as analogous to statistical reporting? I wasn't suggesting shutting A&E at the weekend either. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throbber Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 1 minute ago, D.A.F.C said: Go outside, dont go outside. It’s too funny, he utterly nails the impression and the mixed signals we are getting from our farcical prime minister. Some morons on twitter are crying that Lucas is making light of the situation which isn’t the case at all here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greendot Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Just now, throbber said: It’s too funny, he utterly nails the impression and the mixed signals we are getting from our farcical prime minister. Some morons on twitter are crying that Lucas is making light of the situation which isn’t the case at all here. Plot twist, Boris Johnson is just Matt Lucas in a wig doing an impression of Boris Johnson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throbber Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 I actually posted the link to this a few pages back this morning and nobody noticed. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendan Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Wee Bully said: I would stop the daily briefings over the weekend anyway (which i think they had started to do in Scotland). If there is no new information, then why have them. I get the idea right at the start, but it is pretty samey now. I'm not sure why testing and tracing are being held up as analogous to statistical reporting? I wasn't suggesting shutting A&E at the weekend either. I'd stop the daily briefings full stop. It's like groundhog day. The reason case numbers drop on weekends is because fewer tests take place or there's a delay in getting the results back. I'm not sure why that *wouldn't* impact on the effectiveness of tracking efforts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Cort's Hamstring Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 (edited) The UK government have now announced* that we should be wearing 'face coverings' in shops or on public transport. *By announced I mean published it within a 60 page technical report which no normal person will read: Communicating simple messages was the one single thing that Johnson's mob had shown they could do competently prior to this crisis. How have they become so sh*t at that as well? Edited May 11, 2020 by Carl Cort's Hamstring 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Bully Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 1 minute ago, bendan said: I'd stop the daily briefings full stop. It's like groundhog day. The reason case numbers drop on weekends is because fewer tests take place or there's a delay in getting the results back. I'm not sure why that *wouldn't* impact on the effectiveness of tracking efforts. Are you perhaps mixing up 2 different things here? My reply was in relation to a post about death recording. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 4 hours ago, pandarilla said: I don't think that's necessarily true. Every society has their share of numpties. Remember the odds are still massively in your favour. My dad is 81 and very vulnerable lung wise, and he got through it. One in every 300 is catching it. One in every 2000 is dying from it. Would you back a horse at 2,000 /1, or even 300/1? One in every 7 who catches it, dies. Once you've got it, stay away from the bookies. All figures approximate and open to ridicule. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendan Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Wee Bully said: Are you perhaps mixing up 2 different things here? My reply was in relation to a post about death recording. Someone mentioned deaths but the post you replied to was a general one about figures being put out. I was referring to the general inconsistency of the stats, not just deaths. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alert Mongoose Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 1 minute ago, cyderspaceman said: One in every 300 is catching it. One in every 2000 is dying from it. Would you back a horse at 2,000 /1, or even 300/1? One in every 7 who catches it, dies. Once you've got it, stay away from the bookies. All figures approximate and open to ridicule. I think number four can be openly ridiculed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 We all love a good graph, pity the PM's was a shocker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbigal Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Document published if not posted. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/884171/FINAL_6.6637_CO_HMG_C19_Recovery_FINAL_110520_v2_WEB__1_.pdf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Bully Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, bendan said: Someone mentioned deaths but the post you replied to was a general one about figures being put out. I was referring to the general inconsistency of the stats, not just deaths. The one i responded to was responding to one specifically about deaths. Anyway, confusion cleared up. I stand by my previous point. When we have a 7-day rolling average, there is no clinical or scientific need i can see to have the people pulling that data together "in over the weekend". If there was a compelling reason for it, we should staff up to report, but I can't see what that is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 I actually posted the link to this a few pages back this morning and nobody noticed.Aww son.Have a green boy. It was your link I watched. Honest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Granny Danger said: Wellcome to the post-truth, post-irony age where uninformed opinion is as valid as verifiable facts. Not sure where we go next. And outright fucking lies! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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