Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[ICTJohnboy]

6 minutes ago, dorlomin said:

The number of countries that have complained about either faulty PPE or tests they bought from China has been quite something. 

 

Probably the stuff we sent to them a couple of months ago.

[cyderspaceman]

9 hours ago, Thereisalight.. said:

We do, but it’s not 100% foolproof. 

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 No vaccine is 100% effective. To make vaccines safer than the disease, the bacteria or virus is killed or weakened (attenuated). For reasons related to the individual, not all vaccinated persons develop immunity. Most routine childhood vaccines are effective for 85% to 95% of recipients

From WHO.

Of course the WHO is a useless, shit organisation that we don't need...  ( just paraphrasing the president of the United States of America.)

[Sergeant Wilson]

9 hours ago, Thereisalight.. said:

Yes they can. Young healthy people can also spread the flu to old folk or those with underlying health conditions and sadly it can kill them. The world doesn’t stop for that 

 

1 hour ago, Thereisalight.. said:

4  nights in a row now my moronic neighbours have started a fire in their back garden around this time. Something that shouldn’t be happening according to the emergency services during these covid days

Make your mind up. On one hand life has to go on, in the other your worrying about stretched emergency services.

[falkirkthebigclub]

2 hours ago, Tynierose said:

Has anyone seen the virgin Connie Swail

 

 

[Carl Cort's Hamstring]

6 hours ago, Carl Cort's Hamstring said:

I can forgive our government making mistakes in a completely unprecedented crisis. I can accept that they might make quite big errors with the best of intentions. It's the fact that they lie and lie and lie that makes me hate them so much. They're incapable of being honest about anything.

Once upon a time people (for example Gove, who lied about this repeatedly on TV) would have had the decency to resign.

Well, that was quick.

[Thereisalight..]

43 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said:

 

Make your mind up. On one hand life has to go on, in the other your worrying about stretched emergency services.

Life does have to go on, I was being ironic in regards to the “emergency services being pushed” as that’s the line trotted out for everything. I did read it in the paper though that garden fires were a big no no in the eyes of the police. Also my neighbours are selfish kunts. They’ve never had fires...or been out the back door in years yet now the lockdown is on they’re out there early doors until about midnight having their stinking bonfire 

[Fullerene]

10 hours ago, peasy23 said:

10 hours ago, Granny Danger said:

They are stupid.  Relying on the fundamentals of a document written almost 250 years ago to inform how you should organise your society without taking account of the changes that have happened since then is the definition of stupidity.
 

As the comedian Jim Jeffries points out, "the right to bear arms" was added at a time when people were still using muskets, not assault rifles and automatic weapons.

The right to bear arms was established when America did not have an army or at least nothing compared to elsewhere.

To get round this every man would have a gun to defend his state against the next state and to defend the new country against any other country.

Absolutely nothing to do with self defence or protecting your property and your family from other individuals.

[DA Baracus]

The American constitution is an absolute joke and should be burned immediately.

[ICTChris]

It’s just the flu!

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/how-does-coronavirus-kill-clinicians-trace-ferocious-rampage-through-body-brain-toes#

[Sherrif John Bunnell]

53 minutes ago, Carl Cort's Hamstring said:

Well, that was quick.

[SlipperyP]

8 hours ago, Salvo Montalbano said:

10 hours ago, Snafu said:

15m ago 15:42
Covid-19 has created an unexpected outburst of cross-community co-operation across the sectarian divide in Northern Ireland, reports Henry McDonald in Belfast.
The Protestant Orange Order has announced it has bought a substantial quantity of PPE which it will distribute to health staff on both sides of the Irish border.
The Grand Lodge of Ireland - the Order’s ruling body on the island - has said it has purchased tens of thousands of masks, protective gowns and hand sanitiser.
Orange lodges in both Northern Ireland and the Irish Republic have been tasked to distribute the PPE.

 
Edward Stevenson, the Grand Master of the Grand Lodge of Ireland, said everyone owned “a huge debt of gratitude to all key workers who are working so hard to tackle this dreadful disease.”
The Orange Order has already taken the unusual step of cancelling all its parades and marches including the annual commemoration of the Battle of the Boyne on 12 July in response to the pandemic.
Orangemen however are still making use of the drums they use in the marching season. Some are taking them out to batter during the mass applause and public displays of support for NHS and other key workers every Thursday since the lockdown began.

It's bizarre isn't it? My wife's work has managed to secure a massive load of PPE from somewhere (probably China!) and have chartered a plane to bring it back the the UK. The Orange Order has managed to buy PPE. British companies who normally make other products are saying that they can make it and are actually selling it abroad but the UK Government and their sycophants on social media keep saying that Boris is doing a great job and that the PPE thing can't be their fault because there is a global shortage.

This reminds me of the documentary years ago about governments not being able to logistically get supplies of  medication to some parts of the world.  The documentary looked into  it by following how Coke distributes their produces.  They were going to places in darkest Africa where nobody had medicine but large supplies of Coke to drink.  Message being, it can be done, they just don't know how or don't want to do. Usually the second.

[Theroadlesstravelled]

It reminds me of all the gammon Brexiteers saying that we don't to trade with anyone as we can make our own goods.
We can't even make masks to stop people from dying.

A gimp country ran by gimps for gimps.

[The_Kincardine]

14 minutes ago, Theroadlesstravelled said:

It reminds me of all the gammon Brexiteers saying that we don't to trade with anyone as we can make our own goods.

That was never said by anyone.

[madwullie]

5 hours ago, Carl Cort's Hamstring said:

Well, that was quick.

Read some decent commentary on that letter by a lawyer on twitter. Essentially the para that begins unfortunately, due to a misunderstanding to him reads as if it has been strangled 5 or 6 times till those words were accepted. Basically saying they're creatively trying to te the truth without making it clear that is was a total f**k up. 

[Guest JTS98]

On 20/04/2020 at 06:31, pandarilla said:

I'd like to see this discussion play out a bit more (along with the nurses pics).

Every instinct i have says they're has to be long term and very damaging consequences to this. But I'm generally pretty clueless on economics so I'm happy to be persuaded.

What are the main reasons that we can't keep borrowing /printing money? And why do you guys (and a couple of others) think that doesn't need to apply?

I've just finished listening to the latest edition of The David McWilliams Podcast, which contains his views on how to get out of the Covid economic mess.

He quite heavily references the mistakes made post-WWI which led to the depression. It is his view that the Wall Street crash did not have to lead to a depression, lead to WWII etc, and he explains why he thinks countries should borrow their way out of this problem rather than following those same mistakes.

Give it a listen.

[Guest JTS98]

47 minutes ago, madwullie said:

Read some decent commentary on that letter by a lawyer on twitter. Essentially the para that begins unfortunately, due to a misunderstanding to him reads as if it has been strangled 5 or 6 times till those words were accepted. Basically saying they're creatively trying to te the truth without making it clear that is was a total f**k up. 

It also looks like it's been done in a rush. There's an extra comma after the word 'Committee'. This suggests there was previously another clause in there which has been edited out. The comma has been left there doing nothing but looking confusing.

I wonder what the missing clause said.

[Dons_1988]

8 hours ago, DA Baracus said:

The American constitution is an absolute joke and should be burned immediately.

The merits of it are irrelevant.

It was written 100's of years ago when they won independence therefore it is gospel.

[Hard Graft]

Anyone arriving in Australia from overseas is immediately taken to a hotel and placed in quarantine for 14 days.  Anyone arriving in  UK is free to go and do whatever.  Are we really this stupid?  You really could not make this up.

Edited April 22, 2020 by Hard Graft

[ICTJohnboy]

2 minutes ago, Hard Graft said:

Anyone arriving in Australia from overseas is immediately taken to a hotel and placed in quarantine for 14 days.  Anyone arriving in  UK is free to go and do whatever.  Are we really this stupid?  You really could not make this up.

 

Including flights coming in from New York - the most densely affected area in the world by Covid-19.

We really are that stupid.

[pandarilla]

My old dad has beaten this fucking thing (he tested positive in the middle of the week but i didn't want to post it up here until he got better).

The c**t's 80 so fair play. He was ill for about 2 weeks and i was getting really worried, mainly because he'd decided he would self-sacrifice because he didn't want to burden the nhs (which was not in any way overrun but he took a lot of convincing).

He then choked pretty bad (a separate thing he's had for the last few years) and when it didn't clear he ended up in a&e at the ayr hospital. It cleared itself before he went to bed on the first night and the next day they wanted to test him for covid due to his other symptoms (which he seemed to be recovering from by that stage). He got home but was phoned and told he had tested positive.

My mum is generally a bit healthier and not as old but she has been ill at the same time as him - with quite mild symptoms that only lasted 3-4 days.

So both of the old b*****ds have dodged a bullet.

I'm 39 and I've always been pretty pragmatic about the prospect of them dying. I've thought about it a reasonable amount, and tried to prepare myself (as much as you can). But I'm not afraid to admit my heart has had a few wee flutters recently. And it's so frustrating not being able to visit.

I've gradually started to give him half a cuddle whenever i visit over the last few years (as we say goodbye). Next time I'm down I'm going for the full on man hug.