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It has to be random when you choose the number, but then you will have them identified to you and have to visit their homes to tell them and their families that they're getting the bullet for your pint.


I think you've just invented a new genre: Tory Porn.
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1 hour ago, JTS98 said:

It has to be random when you choose the number, but then you will have them identified to you and have to visit their homes to tell them and their families that they're getting the bullet for your pint.

There's only about a one in ten chance that it would be someone who didn't deserve it because most people are dicks. 

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5 hours ago, WATTOO said:

Do the actual test figures being published by this country really mean that much ?

I can see why mass testing (such as Germany) makes a huge difference, however what's the point in testing someone on the Monday and them being negative but then that very person catches it later that day  / the next day ??

In the case of NHS and care workers I can see the above scenario actually occurring, irrespective of how ridiculous it may seem.

At a guess, I'd say that's probably the view of the government.    They sat on their hands at the beginning of this,

wandered through herd immunity, now they're on lockdown, made loads of big promises about the number of tests by the

end of April.  

They're incompetent, and clueless, I'd hardly believe a word they say.

And no, the published figures for tests don't mean much to me, mainly because they don't appear to form

part of any real strategy.

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The decision about when to end the lockdown period is a great moment to stop and ponder one of life's best philosophical questions. What is the value of a human life? In a morbid way, it's a great thought. I've spent a lot of today talking with different people about it.
Obviously, the lockdown must end at some point. The virus will not be completely gone, so some people will die who would have lived had the lockdown gone on for longer.
However, we obviously accept human death all the time. Smoking and drinking are both legal, it is legal to drive your car relatively fast, we know that a number of human beings will die in plane crashes every year, we allow Aberdeen to play away games on winter days with bad weather which means more people will drive up and down the country in bad conditions and potentially die.
We find death acceptable. Society couldn't function otherwise.
So, how many deaths are acceptable collateral damage for us to be able to go back to work or out for a pint again?
It's a funny question because while the victims are just a number, it's relatively easy. If you say two extra people will die, that sounds ok. But If you showed me a picture of the two people and their families and said 'These two people will die', I'd find it much harder.
Enough. Let's find P&B's biggest psychopath. What's your acceptable number of deaths to get back out?
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Just looked at the latest daily NHS England stats, of the 738 deaths reported, they break down as 138, 320, 109, 45, 21, 11, 17 for the last 7 days from yesterday backwards, with the others prior to 10th April. The peak still appears to have been 8th April.

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10 minutes ago, beefybake said:

At a guess, I'd say that's probably the view of the government.    They sat on their hands at the beginning of this,

wandered through herd immunity, now they're on lockdown, made loads of big promises about the number of tests by the

end of April.  

They're incompetent, and clueless, I'd hardly believe a word they say.

And no, the published figure for tests don't mean much to me, mainly because they don't appear to form

part of any real strategy.

Yes, that's pretty much how I see it also.

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I know this is petty as f**k, but I'm getting really annoyed at the BBC coverage starting an interesting discussion with a political or health correspondent at 4.58 every day, then cutting it off to go to the press conference. Why not do the fucking thing earlier or just wait until after?

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53 minutes ago, superbigal said:

Belgium has the highest number of daily coronavirus deaths per head of population of any country in the world - but ministers say this is only because they are being more transparent with their data.

The European nation had reported 4,857 deaths from coronavirus as of Thursday, an increase of 417 in 24 hours, despite having a relatively small population of 11.6million people.

But, unlike many of its European neighbours, it is counting deaths outside of hospital and deaths where the patient had coronavirus symptoms but had not been tested in those figures.

These deaths account for almost half of Belgium's total, meaning that the true scale of coronavirus deaths in other countries could be double the official figures if that trend is replicated elsewhere. 

Have we not started doing that now as well ?

"We" as in Scotland.

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3 minutes ago, get_the_subbies_on said:

Great stuff. A task force to develop a vaccine. Should we not have been working in this already?

I think this is more to get all of those working on it together. You often end up with different institutions doing their own thing, especially as they’ll be thinking down the road at funding etc.

This is actually probably a good thing as it takes out any competitive element and means that they’ll all be working together.

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12 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

Look on the bright side, once we get testing up to 100,000 per day it should only take a year and a half to test everyone.

Test everyone once.  Or twice if the mortality climbs to 50%.

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