Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[Raven]

30 minutes ago, Fullerene said:

I will have to check what Danny says.

Corona not flu.

[Sergeant Wilson]

3 minutes ago, Melanius Mullarkey said:

Were they epidemiologists?

They supported The Ramones at...insert fictional gig here.

[Cyclizine]

3 hours ago, Tynierose said:

Hi Wattoo I'm not getting at you here but the bit in bold irks me a bit, for some staff yes it will be quiet, it depends on where you work of course.  I've seen this from a few staff who work in areas where demand is no longer an issue.

The wards are quiet as nobody is being routinely operated on and admissions for general ailments are being kept to a minimum as we try to keep patients away from hospital . Critical care on the other hand is absolutely mental with extra care areas being set up.   It must be remembered that a different, higher set of skills are required for the kind of care currently being provided in both critical care areas and Gp land, and if you normally work in say a care of the elderly ward then you won't necessarily have the skill fit to work in these areas.

I know how busy critical care is just now with sadly a large number of younger patients in situ, plenty of whom have no pre-existing health conditions which is worrying.  The staff are working their arses off.

Primary care i.e Gp surgeries are also rammed with Gp's and ANP's being moved to Covid assessment centres plus trying to deal with normal patient workload while dealing with increased demands due to peoples anxiety levels going through the roof during this.  All the while this is with reduced staff due to sickness etc.

Staff are being moved from places like outpatients as their areas close to help out as best they can in other parts of the service.  

So for some people, yes, some areas of the hospital are quiet but cognisance of the service as a whole should be taken into account by these people when they're informing everyone how quiet they are, lucky them.   Most of the staff I know from different areas of the health service are fucking knackered.  So yes t might be quiet for some but the storm has already hit some parts of the service.  I dread to think what it will look like in a months time.

It's time for a Tennent's for me.

This on so many levels. I work in critical care. We have turned our 16 bed intensive care unit into Covid patients only and tuened our medical high dependency unit into a satellite ICU for non-covid patients. We have contingency plans to expand into theatres soon. All elective surgery is stopped. We have taken all anaesthetic trainees to critical care, leaving anaesthesia with skeleton staff. A black rota is running to ensure we have enough staff to cope with the projected sickness.

The hospital is filling up. The patients we're seeing are really sick and believe me, I'm used to dealing with really sick patients. They're not turning around quickly those that survive. I agree this is the quiet before the storm. We'll see in the next couple of weeks how successful the isolation measures have been. We seem to be a couple of weeks behind Italy and Spain and a week or so behind the south of England, where it sounds from from my colleagues down there.

This a reality, we haven't seen the worst of it yet, but I hope we can keep some semblance of control over it.

[Zen Archer (Raconteur)]

I wonder how she's getting on?

[Guest Moomintroll]

This on so many levels. I work in critical care. We have turned our 16 bed intensive care unit into Covid patients only and tuened our medical high dependency unit into a satellite ICU for non-covid patients. We have contingency plans to expand into theatres soon. All elective surgery is stopped. We have taken all anaesthetic trainees to critical care, leaving anaesthesia with skeleton staff. A black rota is running to ensure we have enough staff to cope with the projected sickness.
The hospital is filling up. The patients we're seeing are really sick and believe me, I'm used to dealing with really sick patients. They're not turning around quickly those that survive. I agree this is the quiet before the storm. We'll see in the next couple of weeks how successful the isolation measures have been. We seem to be a couple of weeks behind Italy and Spain and a week or so behind the south of England, where it sounds from from my colleagues down there.
This a reality, we haven't seen the worst of it yet, but I hope we can keep some semblance of control over it.

I don't have any words but keep doing what you are doing. Thanks for what I know you think is just your job.

[ICTJohnboy]

9 minutes ago, Zen Archer Esq. said:

I wonder how she's getting on?

 

She's got twin boys now.

Two of them.

[Jacksgranda]

6 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said:

 

She's got twin boys now.

Two of them.

Two twins. That's 4, then.

[Theroadlesstravelled]

https://www.businessinsider.com/3m-mask-shipment-to-berlin-germany-diverted-united-states-report-2020-4

Gie's yer 200,000 masks.

[PauloPerth]

2 hours ago, jagfox99 said:

 

That guy goes from being excellent to a bit of an idiot quite regularly during each video for me.

I like watching it because it really annoys me.

His simplified way of explaining medical stuff to a population of thickos is excellent, but then contrast that with his spelling mistakes, his pronunciation of 'expedential' growth and many others, and the way he now seems to feel his opinion is on a par with the head of the WHO.

Hes hit a winning formula with it though. Take a few random countries and print off the figures, regularly say how awful it is. Lockdown measures good. Non lockdown measures bad.  Figures for xxx in Europe are appalling. Name a random densely populated poorer country and say how concerned you are for them.  Bang, half million followers.

I think I like how much it annoys me.

That and Trump's evening conferences.

 

[heedthebaa]

1 hour ago, madwullie said:

Quite a lot of 5G idiocy appearing in various fb groups I'm in tonight. Fucking hell

Burn the 5G masts and save us all 

[Dee Man]

Just saw a meme saying words to the effect of, 'The government know everyone would go mental if they told you 4 months lockdown so they're telling you 30 days at a time'.

Probably not far from the truth IMO.

[Dee Man]

2 minutes ago, heedthebaa said:

Burn the 5G masts and save us all 

https://www.5gradar.com › news
Birmingham 5G mast goes up in flames in 'likely' arson attack | 5Gradar

[heedthebaa]

2 minutes ago, Dee Man said:

https://www.5gradar.com › news
Birmingham 5G mast goes up in flames in 'likely' arson attack | 5Gradar

Seen it, these people walk in amongst us 

[Derry Alli]

[madmitch]

9 hours ago, MixuFixit said:

Out for a walk, guy jogging along a street empty other than me crosses the road then runs past me about 2 foot away. I'm taking a 6 foot breaker's bar with me next time.

Social Distancer 3000 don't go out without it. 

[Venti]

[GordonS]

1 hour ago, Dee Man said:

Just saw a meme saying words to the effect of, 'The government know everyone would go mental if they told you 4 months lockdown so they're telling you 30 days at a time'.

Probably not far from the truth IMO.

But the UK Deputy CMO said to prepare for up to 6 months, and I've heard 5 months. I'm sure I've heard Scottish authorities say similar and our CMO said 3 months "in the first instance."

Many people are desperate to believe in mind games.

The regs are for 21 days at a time, IIRC, which is obviously better than doing a Hungary.

[GordonS]

More bad news for the "it's just flu" crowd.

One of the stupid things they do is compare excess mortality with hospital deaths. Here's New York State's hospital deaths from flu:

[GordonS]

3 hours ago, Fullerene said:

In all fairness I see where you are coming from regarding predictions. 

Take climate change as an example.

Scientist A has an article printed in one magazine saying Climate Change will be a disaster.  The world will get hotter.  Europe south of Paris will turn to desert and it will be a nightmare.

Meanwhile Scientist B has an article printed in another magazine saying Climate Change will be a disaster.  The world will actually get colder.  Europe north of Paris will have severe winters and it will be a nightmare.

Net result.   The two articles cancel out and nobody worries about Climate Change.

A better approach is to say Climate Change is a serious matter.  We can't entirely predict how it will might make things worse but that is all the more reason to deal with while we still can.  If we wait until we know everything it might be too late.

Is that about it? 

I only see Kincardine's tweets when someone replies to him. He really is an omnishambles.

That thing about scientists predicting an ice age in the 70s is an absolute myth that zoomers tell each other to justify their anti-scientific drivel.

FWIW, the way you describe science above is wrong. It also massively distorts the contradictory evidence on climate change to make it appear like it has validity or is on an equal footing with the evidence supporting climate change theory.

[jagfox]

2 hours ago, PauloPerth said:

That guy goes from being excellent to a bit of an idiot quite regularly during each video for me.

I like watching it because it really annoys me.

His simplified way of explaining medical stuff to a population of thickos is excellent, but then contrast that with his spelling mistakes, his pronunciation of 'expedential' growth and many others, and the way he now seems to feel his opinion is on a par with the head of the WHO.

Hes hit a winning formula with it though. Take a few random countries and print off the figures, regularly say how awful it is. Lockdown measures good. Non lockdown measures bad.  Figures for xxx in Europe are appalling. Name a random densely populated poorer country and say how concerned you are for them.  Bang, half million followers.

I think I like how much it annoys me.

That and Trump's evening conferences.

 

I enjoyed him ripping into the WHO in his understated manner at the start of the top video.