Alert Mongoose Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 The world has lost it’s collective mind. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 10 minutes ago, Jeremiah Cole said: https://www.euromomo.eu/index.html The answer is that increased mortality that may occur primarily at subnational level or within smaller focal areas, and/or concentrated within smaller age groups, may not be detectable at the national level, even more so not in the pooled analysis at European level, given the large total population denominator. Furthermore, there is always a few weeks of delay in death registration and reporting. Hence, the EuroMOMO mortality figures for the most recent weeks must be interpreted with some caution. Therefore, although increased mortality may not be immediately observable in the EuroMOMO figures, this does not mean that increased mortality does not occur in some areas or in some age groups, including mortality related to COVID-19. Source: Euromomo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alert Mongoose Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Dele said: Alcohol ban coming in in Wednesday apparently. As will social disorder at that point. Coincidentally that was the day we were supposed to move into our new house. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest_Fifer Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 https://www.euromomo.eu/index.htmlI guess you didn't read the various caveats and warnings in the article about the figures not necessarily telling the whole story at the moment? Note concerning COVID-19 related mortality as part of the all-cause mortality figures reported by EuroMOMO Over the past few days, the EuroMOMO hub has received many questions about the weekly all-cause mortality data and the possible contribution of any COVID-19 related mortality. Some wonder why no increased mortality is observed in the reported mortality figures for the COVID-19 affected countries. The answer is that increased mortality that may occur primarily at subnational level or within smaller focal areas, and/or concentrated within smaller age groups, may not be detectable at the national level, even more so not in the pooled analysis at European level, given the large total population denominator. Furthermore, there is always a few weeks of delay in death registration and reporting. Hence, the EuroMOMO mortality figures for the most recent weeks must be interpreted with some caution. Therefore, although increased mortality may not be immediately observable in the EuroMOMO figures, this does not mean that increased mortality does not occur in some areas or in some age groups, including mortality related to COVID-19. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Alert Mongoose said: The world has lost it’s collective mind. Has the world cutoff your access to nursey pics, b*****ds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 18 minutes ago, Gaz said: Cooking, showering, using knives and going upstairs are all necessary, to various degrees. Two folk going shopping when only one person needs to isn't necessary, to any degree. Cooking, showering, using knives and going upstairs are not necessary. You could eat cold food and nothing that needs chopped. You could wipe down with a damp cloth, or not wash until this is over. You could bring your clothes downstairs, sleep on the sofa, and close off the upstairs in your home. All of these things are perfectly feasible. Only one going in to the shop, the other is sitting in the car where they, and everyone else, is perfectly safe. You don't get to dismiss the risks at home and only focus on the risks outside the home. That's pure cherrypicking. 9 minutes ago, JMDP said: With regard to shopping, it's just common sense to do it on your own. Here in Spain, you are only allowed to do it on your own. Indeed, you are only allowed to be out the house on your own. Makes sense tbh. It doesn't make sense for people from the same household not to be allowed out together. It also makes it impossible for children to get enough exercise. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DA Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 22 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: I see your point but it's not Nazi stuff. No one is talking of gassing millions of folk or invading countries, or carrying out horrendous experiments on vulnerable people or getting rid of elections etc. I wouldn't be too sure about that last one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest_Fifer Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 Alcohol ban coming in in Wednesday apparently. Already been debunked. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, Dele said: Alcohol ban coming in in Wednesday apparently. Source? What would be the thought process behind such a move 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Forest_Fifer said: 7 minutes ago, Dele said: Alcohol ban coming in in Wednesday apparently. Already been debunked. 1 minute ago, Todd_is_God said: Source? What would be the thought process behind such a move Mates a manager at Morrisons. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 Alcohol ban coming in in Wednesday apparently. Fake news - there was an obvious trolling attempt that has gone right over a lot of people's heads. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkmenbashi Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 (edited) All I can as the conversation. Is while here in Belgium people are allowed to leave the house together. At the supermarket, where they have a queueing system with social distancing, couples are forbidden from entering, and one has to wait outside. They also have a sort of pen outside for older children to go in. However, I have noticed that younger children, And disabled people are allowed in with carers/parents etc. Here generally speaking people have been respectful of rules I noticed, and I only really noticed one older lady who was clearly getting very confused by the system, ended up skipping most of the queue at tills cause she took no notice of the distancing. Also seemed to be one alcoholic got to argument outside at one point. Though my Dutch isn't good enough to really know what was actually going on. Edited March 30, 2020 by Turkmenbashi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post craigkillie Posted March 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, pozbaird said: What do we gain from doing this? We gain the ability to only leave the house once. We combine being out for the shopping with going for our walk at the nearby Broadwood Loch, or the pond between the shops and Condorrat. While at the shops, we are quicker packing and paying, and getting out the shop again. Thus letting someone from the queue outside (should there be one) get in. We gain the ability to behave normally, for example, going up the aisle, and saying ‘ach, fancy a pack of those four cupcakes’, ‘nah, you chose last time, I fancy the millionaires shortbread.’. You know, normal happily married couple trivial shit that helps keep things seem a bit more normal in these far from normal times. We can jointly choose a red wine we fancy, I can lift the heavier things.... I’ll leave it there. Any more stupid fcuking questions? Nazi. This is one of the most terminally stupid posts I've ever read on here. I have no real issue with two folk sitting in the car together to go to their nearest shop as long as only one is going in for the shopping. It's not what I'd do, but I can understand the logic. I don't have an issue with two people going out a walk together - in fact we have done this a couple of times - it's probably good for you in terms of keeping things as "normal" as possible, although my wife has been getting annoyed about just how much of a wide berth I have given people. However, choosing, in spite of all the evidence, to actually go in to the shops together is the height of selfishness. You are immediately making it harder for everyone else in that shop to keep their distance, and if you're the type of people that do that you're probably also the type who walk two abreast down the aisles or stand about with your trolley blocking the aisle having a discussion without even thinking about other customers. Everyone there will think you are a pair of complete arseholes. When you're standing pondering your fucking cupcakes and blocking up the aisle, you are giving a fellow customer a moral quandary about whether to stand and wait for you or squeeze past and risk catching the disease off two people who are much more likely than average to have it because they're acting like fucking selfish imbeciles all the time. Even a couple of weeks ago before these new regulations properly ramped up, when my wife and I went out an (essential) walk to drop food off for a vulnerable person and popped into the supermarkets on the way, one of us stood out in the car park and the other one went in. Somehow we managed to still get enough food to last us a week without facing any of those existential dilemmas you have posed about fucking red wine. I might have let it slide if you hadn't then twice lowered the tone of the debate even further by comparing people who disagreed with you to Nazis. That singles you out as not just a wee bit selfish, but instead as a horrible fucking arsehole (or as you'd probably type it a "horrible fcuknig aresohle"). Edited March 30, 2020 by craigkillie 54 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Dele said: Mates a manager at Morrisons. Ask him if they have any McGugan’s Chardonnay. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 18 minutes ago, WhiteRoseKillie said: Far be it from me to go agreeing with you, Bennett, but these are interesting times. I confess the thought has crossed my mind as to how many of those banging on about frivolous car use actually own or use cars? My car hasn't turned a wheel since a week past Saturday. Will have to go out again and start her, might be advised to release the hand brake, reverse her back and then park her. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 14 minutes ago, Dele said: Alcohol ban coming in in Wednesday apparently. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Dele said: Mates a manager at Morrisons. https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-alcohol-sales-coronavirus/false-claim-uks-national-health-service-bans-alcohol-consumption-and-sales-in-effort-to-combat-covid-19-idUSKBN21G0W6 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alert Mongoose Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Turkmenbashi said: and I only really noticed one older lady who was clearly getting very confused by the system, ended up skipping most of the queue at tills cause she took no notice of the distancing. Liked this bit. Can imagine her getting home and telling auld Bert that she has sussed a quick way to get the messages in. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RH33 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 4 hours ago, Dele said: Some are. What do you propose happens for single parents? I needed to top up mid week but I just left kids in house McCann style. My youngest is a bit younger than I’d like but decided safer leave her here. Not that her older brother, who was told keep an eye on them noticed she was in house. Shopped yesterday while at their dads and that should be me for the week. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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