Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[RH33]

1 hour ago, Bairnardo said:

When I go back to work, me and Mrs B are going to be relying on childcare from grandparents. Not great, but no option. Hadnt really thought about it till today.

Are either of you key workers? Local councils should have provision in place.

[beefybake]

33 minutes ago, virginton said:

Flu jabs have a piss-poor record of effectiveness from year to year and the flu virus can contribute to tens of thousands of deaths in a bad year, novel virus or not:

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/articles/highestnumberofexcesswinterdeathssince19992000/2015-11-25

It is absolutely correct then to discuss why, say, the 48,000 excess deaths in England/Wales alone during the 1999/00 winter alone was met with not even the slightest attempt at social distancing measures, whereas OMG NEW VIRUS must shut everything down until it all goes away. Right now that's almost certainly the best response but at some point in the near future a rational cost-benefit analysis is going to have to kick in again. This is just not sustainable for the months on end that some health experts want to keep it in place, from both an economic and behavioural standpoint.

I'm not absolutely certain, but I believe a primary difference between the coronavirus and flu scenarios, is that coronavirus is about 10 (?)  times more infectious than typical flu,

and thus is a scale of magnititude more dangerous.

Edited March 29, 2020 by beefybake

[Bairnardo]

Are either of you key workers? Local councils should have provision in place.

Yeah but we work back/nighshifts too

 

Mrs B does her best to schedule shifts around mine but my work changed the shift pattern for us cos of this which now means not needing some childcare is inpossoble

[vikingTON]

19 minutes ago, Boostin' Kev said:

What is it with you lot and the homoerotic Jason Leitch thing? Never heard of him until now. 

It's worth remembering that Public Health Experts like the aforementioned clownshoes figure actually gave the green light for 60,000 people attending an Old Firm game just two weeks ago today and chose to keep disease-riddled, shitehole public schools open the rest of that week because parents couldn't be asked to look after sprogs until it was absolutely necessary.

So quite why anyone is taking their current 'emergency, emergency, but here's a new model showing how good we're doing btw' updates without at least a pinch of salt beats me.

Edited March 29, 2020 by vikingTON

[D.A.F.C]

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/business/1225282/coronavirus-defiant-fife-businesses-decisions-could-be-difference-between-life-and-death/

[D Angelo Barksdale]

Thread is picking up now tbf.

[stuartsmfc]

14 minutes ago, virginton said:

How's spending £400 a week on your rampant ching habit working out for you?

 

How's your crack and smack habit? Still robbing grannies? You do know the police are after you for stealing that Morton's roll van, probably you and your pals are the ones out trying car doors and threatening to stab people in the early hours too...lay off the blues 

[Bairnardo]

9 minutes ago, virginton said:

It's really not an accusation given the fact that he admitted that he was a junkie and had a meltdown about 'only' getting £400 a week in furloughed pay to cover his 'expenses'. I don't think we need Columbo on the case to wrap this one up.

Oh cool. That certainly helps you come across better IMO. 

[8MileBU]

On 27/03/2020 at 16:20, virginton said:

Nearly all the good ones in Greater Greenock are already shut.

And absolutely squat to do with coronavirus either. 

[Dee Man]

4 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said:

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/business/1225282/coronavirus-defiant-fife-businesses-decisions-could-be-difference-between-life-and-death/

I knew we'd get to find out your workplace eventually. 

[Boostin' Kev]

3 minutes ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said:

Thread is picking up now tbf.

Should be good later, it's a sunny day and most people will be outside getting bevvied before being forced to come home early. 

[dirty dingus]

29 minutes ago, stuartsmfc said:

Inverclyde should be shut down to the rest of humanity you cretin

 

 

We'll just keep this to ourselves then.

[D.A.F.C]

I knew we'd get to find out your workplace eventually. 

Its not that.

[Robin.Hood]

When I go back to work, me and Mrs B are going to be relying on childcare from grandparents. Not great, but no option. Hadnt really thought about it till today.

That's pretty crazy regarding grandparents looking after your kids in this.
No option from both sets of work regarding childcare ? Easter holidays so I presume this would of been the case ?

I'm stuck in the hoose 23 hours a day with a newborn and two disabled kids with autism because folk are arseholes who couldn't stay out of the pub when told not to. You've literally got the health service telling folk not to drive places for exercise, for the reasons saying above, and then folk like you are coming out with twattish shite saying "a few individuals driving around to get exercise is fine".
This is why we're all having to stay in the hoose, because folk wouldn't listen a week ago and folk are still not listening and ignoring what they're being asked to do.

I agree with this. Plenty arseholes.

Just had some stealing. Running through fire exit door. Nothing changes

[Melanius Mullarkey]

When’s the best time to be visiting an Aldi/Lidl/Asda and the likes?

The wee shop along the road is fine but could now do with an essential bigger shop.

[stuartsmfc]

2 minutes ago, dirty dingus said:

 

 

We'll just keep this to ourselves then.

Yes well done, you get a great view from your crackden 

[Mark Connolly]

1 minute ago, Melanius Mullarkey said:

When’s the best time to be visiting an Aldi/Lidl/Asda and the likes?

The wee shop along the road is fine but could now do with an essential bigger shop.

When the NHS lot are in, fairly quiet then.

[RH33]

14 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

Yeah but we work back/nighshifts too

 

Mrs B does her best to schedule shifts around mine but my work changed the shift pattern for us cos of this which now means not needing some childcare is inpossoble

Ah f**k. 

[ScottishZizou]

Im fairly new to posting a lot here. What’s up with this virginton guy? He seems to be able to form arguments quite well so clearly not an idiot but why has he chosen the Coronavirus is the same as the flu hill to die on? He has to be contrarian to prove he’s smarter than everyone else, is that it, have I nailed it?
 

Take a day off man, especially when society is facing a pandemic which is killing close to a thousand a day in other countries. You are coming across as a bit of a dick and the kind of guy who no one will listen to unless they are being controversial  so you are being Intentionally controversial for attention and to be so much smarter than everyone else. It’s having your desired effect that your getting attention but it’s also bringing to everyone’s attention that your behaving like a teenager who is rebelling because they aren’t cool and labelling everyone else around them as stupid. 

Do yourself a favour and give it up and don’t continue to be the “coronavirus = flu guy” when there’s a very real chance people in this site could be losing family members to it soon. 

Edited March 29, 2020 by ScottishZizou
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[Jeremiah Cole]

Ask your parents about the lockdown in ‘

In 1957 it had all seemed initially quiet on the UK influenza front. Dr McDonald's quarterly report (November 1956—March 1957) mentioned a ‘remarkably low level of respiratory illness so far this winter.’ However, a Times newspaper comment (17 April) that ‘an influenza epidemic has affected thousands of Hong Kong residents’ heralded the start of rapid movement across the East with 100 000 cases in Taiwan by mid-May and over a million in India by June. Five months after the Hong Kong outbreak it was reckoned to have traversed the globe. As an entirely new strain there was no immunity in the populace and the first vaccines were not distributed until August in the US and October in the UK, and then on an extremely limited basis.

The first cases in the UK were in late June, with a serious outbreak in the general population occurring in August. From mid-September onwards the virus spread from the North, West, and Wales to the South, East, and Scotland. One GP recalled ‘we were amazed at the extraordinary infectivity of the disease, overawed by the suddenness of its outset and surprised at the protean nature of its symptomatology.’2 It peaked the week ending 17 October with 600 deaths reported in major towns in England and Wales. There was some evidence of a limited return in the winter.

By early 1958 it was estimated that ‘not less than 9 million people in Great Britain had … Asian influenza during the 1957 epidemic. Of these, more than 5.5 million were attended by their doctors. About 14 000 people died of the immediate effects of their attack.’3Not only was £10 000 000 spent on sickness benefit, but also with factories, offices and mines closed the economy was hit: ‘Setback in Production — “Recession through Influenza”’ (Manchester Guardian, 29 November).

Despite Watson's early prediction that ‘in the end, and in spite of the scare stuff in the lay press, we will have our epidemic of influenza, of a type not very different from what we know already, with complications in the usual age groups,’4 the core group of main sufferers was aged 5–39 years with 49% between 5–14 years. In London, 110 000 children were off school suspected of having influenza. With adults there was usually a connection to children; for example, parents, teachers, doctors, or a closed group such as the armed forces and football teams. As the Manchester Guardian put it: ‘Fit Go Down with Flu’ (20th August). There was also a rise in influenzal deaths in January 1958 of an older age group but it was not clear how much of this was the usual seasonal deaths attributed to influenza as opposed to Asian flu.5