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1 minute ago, DA Baracus said:

They aren't. They have just been mentioned as staying specifically open. I visited one this morning. They are running on reduced hours and with restrictions in place.

This sort of vague bullshit helps no one. Needless stuff.

I appreciate that mate. Thought twice before posting. Did so anyway. Mainly because this means I'll be taking some stuff up to my dad and leaving it on his doorstep today rather than tomorrow 

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1 minute ago, ScottishZizou said:

You seem to be getting a lot of greenies for this but i cannot get on board. So its go outisde if you can outsmart the system and manipulate a plan. Lets say the entire population did this, then it quite simply wouldnt work. Then the amount of people at said estate would be double or triple. Or is it only certain families that should be allowed to do this who know where the quiet places are? Its the classic one rule for you but not for others. Yes, chances are your little trip made no difference but thats not the bloody point. Its a societal thing and if we as a society all take these small risks it mounts up and ultimately it is selfish entitled behaviour thinking you are above the rules. How many deaths as a result of people going outside and spreading this would it take or a percentage chance that your actions contribute to the spread would it take for you to just stay inside? 

Playing Devils advocate, you're probably right in what you say. A total lockdown is possibly the best way of saving lives and riding this thing out (similar to China), however the ordinary punter (that's you. me and everyone on this forum) is getting a constant stream of advice and recommendations from our Government, from our Health Chiefs and from various media outlets, sadly the information is often conflicting and is also contradictory so REALLY what do they expect folk to do ??

Don't get me wrong, you'll always get the idiots, the morons, the rebels and maybe they do need taken to task in an attempt to temper their idiotic and selfish behaviour.

Being honest, I'd say the vast majority of us are intelligent enough to use common sense and do what we think is best (and safe) for ourselves and our families. 

Will it work ? will it be enough ? Could we do more ?

These are all questions which none of us can answer at this time and it may be with hindsight we look back on this and think Yes, there was more we could have done but ultimately we just don't know.

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Just now, GordonS said:

He did call is a "very slow 5k".

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30-40 minutes suggests this is perhaps a new hobby. I don't think we can take his thoughts on the subject seriously.

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3 minutes ago, Bairn Necessities said:

On another note GPs now saying people are lying about their symptoms to get seen face to face. Wankers

Aye, so they can post their shite on social media to get likes and omg's and other shite that needy b*****d require to get them through the day. 

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This sort of vague bullshit helps no one. Needless stuff.


Indeed. But there is reason to think that a lockdown is coming. Sturgeon’s rhetoric yesterday was basically flagging that stronger measures were coming. Likewise the Today programme this morning.
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22 minutes ago, Bairn Necessities said:

Actually in this hypothetical what we are saying is that if the roads near me are snow free and safe I shouldn't drive anyway because some arsehole in Angus wants to go snow rally driving in his Ford Escort.

Except they're not as every region from D&G to Shetland has already been affected.  Moot point.

Folk that thought the weather was fine when they left home and that only Angus was at risk are going to be abandoning their cars rather shortly, all because they thought they knew better than the Met Office forecast (that changed slightly from yesterday).  Unfortunately thousands had this same idea and the AA / RAC / Whoever can't rescue everyone from their cars, meaning some of the elderly are going to be needlessly freezing to death... all because they wouldn't take the advice not to use the road just because the gates were still open. 

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John Mason has now been reprimanded by the Deputy Speaker, the Health Secretary and the First Minister for keeping his surgeries going, and his other 'contributions'.  It's not even a minor issue compared to the rest of it but he really must in the top one of stpid politicians in modern Scottish history. 

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3 minutes ago, Ya Bezzer! said:

The principle means of infection is infected air.  The air can be infected by someone with no symptoms or who hasn't developed symptoms yet simply exhaling.  Sneezing and coughing aren't required.

Air is only infected within a small radius of someone carrying the virus for a short period of time. 'The air' around us at all times is not in fact infected to any significant degree.

Which is why social distancing is the critical response here.
 

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The virus isn't interested in contrarian punter logic.  Protect yourself and others by staying indoors unless it's absolutely necessary to go out.

Please follow the guidelines.  The consequences of not doing so are huge.  This isn't a drill or an ironic amusement.  Lives are at stake. Actual peoples lives.

 

Nice weepy rap lecture, but you clearly haven't understood the actual guidelines. The number of people who should stay indoors unless absolutely necessary is currently limited to under 2 million people from a general population of 65 million. You might believe that it should be higher than that but it isn't. You don't get to just make up your own rules and then harangue other people for not following them.

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9 minutes ago, GordonS said:

Quoting word-for-word the Chief Medical Officer, Catherine Calderwood, who has just spoken after the First Minister:

"We know that this is difficult, and we know that this is for the long haul. We have said that these measures are for at least three months in the first instance. So we need to be realistic about people's lives. Exercise is extremely important, fresh air, keeping fit, but also it's very good for people's well being. So we're saying people should go out once a day to exercise, whatever that exercise may be for you - a walk, a run, a cycle - but don't do it except in small family groups do not mingle with other people while out in the outdoors. We're going to have to adapt to life in this new world, we don't want people to become unwell for other reasons, we want to keep people as fit and healthy as possible. So we will encourage people to continue to use the outdoors to keep their mental and physical wellbeing as good as possible. But we're really in this for a marathon, not a sprint."

 

Argument over.

I heard that. They were really emphasising the bits about only doing it once a day and not to mingle.

There was also a plea to all but vital businesses to close, i.e. all except food shops and pharmacies.

There was a very stark, barely veiled warning about new executive powers coming and how they WOULD be used.

I think it's clear that we're heading to a lockdown soon unless there is a drastic change in the behaviour of the morons. The goverments won't tolerate nonsense scenes like we witnessed this weekend again.

 

Also, vital info for all; new guidance is to call 111, not your GP.

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Just in from a lunchtime walk with Mrs BB. Hardly anyone on the streets and when there was we just walked on the road slightly to keep a distance.

It’s all going to be okay

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11 minutes ago, ScottishZizou said:

You seem to be getting a lot of greenies for this but i cannot get on board. So its go outisde if you can outsmart the system and manipulate a plan. Lets say the entire population did this, then it quite simply wouldnt work. Then the amount of people at said estate would be double or triple. Or is it only certain families that should be allowed to do this who know where the quiet places are? Its the classic one rule for you but not for others. Yes, chances are your little trip made no difference but thats not the bloody point. Its a societal thing and if we as a society all take these small risks it mounts up and ultimately it is selfish entitled behaviour thinking you are above the rules. How many deaths as a result of people going outside and spreading this would it take or a percentage chance that your actions contribute to the spread would it take for you to just stay inside? 

Tbh I read this again and now I'm even more angry.

You're specifically arguing *against* what everyone who knows what they're talking about is saying. And more than that, you're insulting people for following the advice of public health authorities. Do you understand just how wrong you are?

You get to call people names when you get your qualification in epidemiology, virology or mental health. Until then, STFU.

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2 hours ago, bernardblack said:

 


Agreed that sitting inside is the best thing to do. I’ll be running a 5k later on and won’t be going near anyone on that. Not running that would have a severe impact on me

 

Unless you fall and break your leg, that'll impact you and the NHS. just stay in and jog on the spot.

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7 minutes ago, madwullie said:

I appreciate that mate. Thought twice before posting. Did so anyway. Mainly because this means I'll be taking some stuff up to my dad and leaving it on his doorstep today rather than tomorrow 

I get what you mean and don't mean to be a dick, but just saying you heard a rumour, not even saying where from, can create panic.

4 minutes ago, Savage Henry said:

 


Indeed. But there is reason to think that a lockdown is coming. Sturgeon’s rhetoric yesterday was basically flagging that stronger measures were coming. Likewise the Today programme this morning.

 

Oh I agree. I think it's coming. Every day the FM and CMO are practically begging folk to smarten the f**k up, but people just aren't listening.

Just heard on the radio that Germany have banned folk gathering in groups of 2 of more. Merkel said that people's behaviour is the biggest issue to the spread and containment of the virus.

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