welshbairn Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: Almost 25% of the electorate of an EU state voting for a former terrorist organisation in a national election should draw negative comment from the international media but won't. Guess it's just more of the swing towards cranky populism that is happening across much of the western world. ANC and Likud don't get much stick. The DUP have pretty unsavoury connections too. Edited February 8, 2020 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DublinMagyar Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 SF most popular among 50-64 yr olds! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 FF FG coalition?Supply and confidence, that's what they had pre election 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Watched a bit on VPN, seems there's no counting till tomorrow and the exit poll doesn't reflect the spread of seats, ie if the Sinn Fein vote came mainly from mad North Dubliners they won't be getting as many seats as the poll suggests. They only got about 12% from the eld feckers. Bit boring, I was hoping for a night of drama as the results came in.Only first preference votes, it's an stv system so poll won't reflect 2nd preference votes etc 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 1 minute ago, John Lambies Doos said: 52 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Watched a bit on VPN, seems there's no counting till tomorrow and the exit poll doesn't reflect the spread of seats, ie if the Sinn Fein vote came mainly from mad North Dubliners they won't be getting as many seats as the poll suggests. They only got about 12% from the eld feckers. Bit boring, I was hoping for a night of drama as the results came in. Only first preference votes, it's an stv system so poll won't reflect 2nd preference votes etc Someone said they had counted second preference votes too in the exit poll but for some reason can't release the numbers till later on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Someone said they had counted second preference votes too in the exit poll but for some reason can't release the numbers till later on.Ah, didn't know that 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Smaller parties did well in Dublin, FF particularly badly. Regions Dublin Fianna Fáil: 14.0% Fine Gael: 21.1% Sinn Féin: 22.3% Green Party: 12.9% Labour Party: 8.1% Social Democrats: 6.1% Solidarity-People Before Profit: 7.0% Aontú: 1.2% Other Parties: 1.7% Independents: 5.6% 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Almost 25% of the electorate of an EU state voting for a former terrorist organisation in a national election should draw negative comment from the international media but won't. Guess it's just more of the swing towards cranky populism that is happening across much of the western world.[emoji23] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutankhamen Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 4 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said: Almost 25% of the electorate of an EU state voting for a former terrorist organisation in a national election should draw negative comment from the international media but won't. Guess it's just more of the swing towards cranky populism that is happening across much of the western world. Tbh, i think the West of Scotland League is a much bigger story. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 But your assuming all the fence sitters are unionists?Heh JD, can you come back on this. I'm genuinely not trying to be pugnacious but I'm not sure how I'm massively misreading your original post? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: 12 hours ago, John Lambies Doos said: But your assuming all the fence sitters are unionists? Heh JD, can you come back on this. I'm genuinely not trying to be pugnacious but I'm not sure how I'm massively misreading your original post? It's not my post you need to start from. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 13 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said: Almost 25% of the electorate of an EU state voting for a former terrorist organisation in a national election should draw negative comment from the international media but won't. Guess it's just more of the swing towards cranky populism that is happening across much of the western world. So Mandela and the ANC, and all those who voted for them, should have been lambasted by the international media? Interesting view; and by “interesting” I mean “not very well thought out”. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: So Mandela and the ANC, and all those who voted for them, should have been lambasted by the international media? Interesting view; and by “interesting” I mean “not very well thought out”. Neither is your analogy between South Africa and the RoI Edited February 9, 2020 by Jacksgranda 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Last time I checked South Africa isn't an EU state. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Jacksgranda said: Neither is your analogy between South Africa and the RoI 1 minute ago, LongTimeLurker said: Last time I checked South Africa isn't an EU state. I saw the reference to the EU and dismissed it for the red herring that it was. The principle still stands. As a wise man once said “We make peace with our enemies”. Following a period of reconciliation agreed by those involved it is quite legitimate for people to vote for SF. Unless, of course, you want to go back to the way things were. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Compare and contrast the response to the rise of AfD in Germany to the rise of SF in the RoI. An interesting contrast to say the least. A wee reminder of the sort of antics you get in the Dail from SF: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 11 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: I saw the reference to the EU and dismissed it for the red herring that it was. The principle still stands. As a wise man once said “We make peace with our enemies”. Following a period of reconciliation agreed by those involved it is quite legitimate for people to vote for SF. Unless, of course, you want to go back to the way things were. I've never said it wasn't. The only people who want to do that are republicans. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 I've never said it wasn't. The only people who want to do that are republicans.The DUP seemed pretty blasé about ending cooperation with the South and setting up a land border. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 That wasn't what GD was getting at. And that was never going to happen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 11 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: I've never said it wasn't. The only people who want to do that are republicans. Do you regard a debate on a (re)united Ireland a retrograde step, or do you think that it’s a legitimate discussion to be having? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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