Jacksgranda Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, DublinMagyar said: 17 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: What's all this about then? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-57368847 Street drinking knackers I thought it was maybe Rangers fans celebrating "55"... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Ferrino Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 22 hours ago, Jacksgranda said: What's all this about then? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-57368847 Disgusting scenes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 Disgusting scenes.Yup 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-57825284 lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smpar Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Interesting coverage on the Shankill from ITV tonight. A loyalist woman claiming that “no other group in society is targeted and labelled as much as them [unionists].” I’m sure the LGBT community, the black community, Muslims, Jewish people, women, sex workers addicts and homeless people would have something to say about that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speckled tangerine Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 16 hours ago, smpar said: Interesting coverage on the Shankill from ITV tonight. A loyalist woman claiming that “no other group in society is targeted and labelled as much as them [unionists].” I almost feel sorry for the pallet burners. Oh.........wait......... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 TBF I can see why hard-core unionists might feel marginalised. It's abundantly clear their political union with London is done - the UK as a whole and Tories in particular don't give a f**k. The cultural union they once had with protestant working class Scotland no Ionger exists outside of a few pubs and social clubs and most people in their own part of the world are at best indifferent towards or embarrassed by them. They aren't some oppressed minority but everything they could have been sure about in decades gone by is dead or dieing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Irish voters have - by thumping margins - rejected amendments to the Eire constitution, that would have removed references to marriage as the foundation of society, and to a woman's special place and care duties being in the home. Polls had predicted approval - but noted 1/3 undecided. Results: RTÉ News - Live Referendum Results - 39th Amendment - Constituency Breakdown (rte.ie) RTÉ News - Live Referendum Results - 40th Amendment - Constituency Breakdown (rte.ie) Dun Laoghaire alone were 'For' (fractionally). Nowhere was 'For'. Donegal was over 80% in favour of the traditional definitions in both areas. While this will partly reflect wider anti-politician sentiment - all major parties backed the vote which was deliberately held on International Women Day - and there were some rather technical arguments over defining "durable" or "strive" plus not specifying disabled care... British press assumptions in recent weeks both proposals would romp home always seemed simplistic. In recent years over a third of voters opposed gay marriage, legalising abortion, and even abolishing blasphemy laws. Three-quarters rejected allowing under 35s to stand for the Uachtaran. There is clearly a substantial vein of social conservatism in Ireland... if floating/alienated voters come down on the same side/abstain, any proposal can struggle for a majority. Interesting to see if either is retried with different wording. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucksburnDandy Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 13 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said: Irish voters have - by thumping margins - rejected amendments to the Eire constitution, that would have removed references to marriage as the foundation of society, and to a woman's special place and care duties being in the home. Polls had predicted approval - but noted 1/3 undecided. Results: RTÉ News - Live Referendum Results - 39th Amendment - Constituency Breakdown (rte.ie) RTÉ News - Live Referendum Results - 40th Amendment - Constituency Breakdown (rte.ie) Dun Laoghaire alone were 'For' (fractionally). Nowhere was 'For'. Donegal was over 80% in favour of the traditional definitions in both areas. While this will partly reflect wider anti-politician sentiment - all major parties backed the vote which was deliberately held on International Women Day - and there were some rather technical arguments over defining "durable" or "strive" plus not specifying disabled care... British press assumptions in recent weeks both proposals would romp home always seemed simplistic. In recent years over a third of voters opposed gay marriage, legalising abortion, and even abolishing blasphemy laws. Three-quarters rejected allowing under 35s to stand for the Uachtaran. There is clearly a substantial vein of social conservatism in Ireland... if floating/alienated voters come down on the same side/abstain, any proposal can struggle for a majority. Interesting to see if either is retried with different wording. My wife was over on Friday (not deliberately to vote) and forgot to vote rushing to the airport to get back here. Turns out it would have made no difference as Kildare North returned thumping No votes to both. How much of it is social conservative views and how much of it is vagueness of the proposals from the government will be teased out in time in their media. But I think you are spot on that any vagueness gets punished. The AV referendum here was another example, the status quo won through easily. There has been a lot of talk recently about how progressive South Ireland is but I'm not sure that is hugely true. Maybe so in Dublin and Cork but more rural areas are much like rural Scotland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Ferguson's Hat Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 I really don't know where any narrative regarding the ROI being progressive would have come from. Anti-immigration is rife. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 52 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said: Irish voters have - by thumping margins - rejected amendments to the Eire constitution, that would have removed references to marriage as the foundation of society, and to a woman's special place and care duties being in the home. Can you support that interpretation with evidence? Because all the other coverage I've seen states that the referendum involved amending the frame of reference with some vague, gubbins formula. If they just wanted to remove reference to a woman's care duties then they surely they could have just posed a different and more straightforward repeal question. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 5 minutes ago, Barry Ferguson's Hat said: I really don't know where any narrative regarding the ROI being progressive would have come from. Anti-immigration is rife. Based on what evidence and compared to what benchmark exactly? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Ferguson's Hat Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 1 minute ago, virginton said: Based on what evidence and compared to what benchmark exactly? Yer maw 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 41 minutes ago, BucksburnDandy said: My wife was over on Friday (not deliberately to vote) and forgot to vote rushing to the airport to get back here. Turns out it would have made no difference as Kildare North returned thumping No votes to both. How much of it is social conservative views and how much of it is vagueness of the proposals from the government will be teased out in time in their media. But I think you are spot on that any vagueness gets punished. The AV referendum here was another example, the status quo won through easily. I think that the AV referendum is an excellent comparison point for this. The outcome has very little to do with the principle and a lot to do with the vague and ham-fisted attempt of incumbent politicians to push through something that isn't (rightly or not) a priority with the public. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 Love a referendum these lads. I imagine they'll keep trying until they get the answer they want. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurkst Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Was in Dublin recently for an admittedly boozy weekend, but seeing all the Yes Yes signs around the place I decided to investigate what it was about. After a few minutes my brain hurt and I returned to the Guinness. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Ireland looking for a new teashop as Leo Varadkar stands down. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazzyStar Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 They’ll probably get some wee Macron type goon in and sell the country off to BlackRock like they’re doing in France. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 It will be interesting to see how Sinn Fein do in the June elections. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 I'm assuming they won't do another party swap and the next Taoiseach will be FG? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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