terracingtam 60 Report post Posted December 1, 2019 31 minutes ago, peternapper said: Have sent an e-mail to David McGregor outlining the stewarding shortcomings so will see if I get a reply. Did suggest if they really wanted to monitor the crowd get them to sit facing the crowd on a stool to keep them out of the way. Let's get realistic. The Club must have stewards to comply with the rules. The current stewards are those who have come forward to do this. They may not be to every ones taste but until the experts in the crowd and on P&B volunteer, we have what we have. Put up or shut up 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iamnotgarybollan 131 Report post Posted December 1, 2019 We did have a decent steward in charge but he seems to have disappeared along with a couple of the others who were above average at their job. Now we are left with a head steward who will quite happily shout homophobic slander at away games, one who never wants to leave the kids alone and hassles them and the rest are just useless, nobody will want to volunteer as they will have to work with a bunch of clowns 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbsouth 662 Report post Posted December 1, 2019 3 hours ago, terracingtam said: Let's get realistic. The Club must have stewards to comply with the rules. The current stewards are those who have come forward to do this. They may not be to every ones taste but until the experts in the crowd and on P&B volunteer, we have what we have. Put up or shut up I want to watch the football......plus i have no interest in incest. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kwaka Mal 158 Report post Posted December 1, 2019 The reaction after the penalty was the best reaction I'd seen from this Forfar squad in a long time!And nice to see the midfield back doing a bit. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peternapper 610 Report post Posted December 1, 2019 4 hours ago, terracingtam said: Let's get realistic. The Club must have stewards to comply with the rules. The current stewards are those who have come forward to do this. They may not be to every ones taste but until the experts in the crowd and on P&B volunteer, we have what we have. Put up or shut up Not sure how it works at our level, are stewards unpaid volunteers or paid employees, would think there would have to be some system of vetting & licensing like doormen at clubs etc to validate their suitability to control crowds properly. Bigger clubs seem to use a company/agency to supply stewards of suitable standard which clears the club of some liability if things go wrong. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Etherglider 51 Report post Posted December 1, 2019 5 hours ago, terracingtam said: Let's get realistic. The Club must have stewards to comply with the rules. The current stewards are those who have come forward to do this. They may not be to every ones taste but until the experts in the crowd and on P&B volunteer, we have what we have. Put up or shut up A fairly shite answer to be fair. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Loonytoons 1,160 Report post Posted December 1, 2019 Let's get realistic. The Club must have stewards to comply with the rules. The current stewards are those who have come forward to do this. They may not be to every ones taste but until the experts in the crowd and on P&B volunteer, we have what we have. Put up or shut up They need put in their place. They are not employed to be problematic or confrontational, they actively go around trying to rile people up.The ginger bloke actually told me to move from the spot I had been standing in for 70 odd minutes so he could stand there instead. The same spot I stand at every week, by and by.Same steward had a pop at me for my jacket every so slightly covering the Ladbrokes advertising hoarding.The man is on an absolute power trip. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
terracingtam 60 Report post Posted December 1, 2019 29 minutes ago, Etherglider said: A fairly shite answer to be fair. And your non answer would be to what? Bring in "professional stewards" from a Dundee company spending money the Club can ill afford? Just ignore the stewards and watch the team play out of trouble. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Etherglider 51 Report post Posted December 1, 2019 36 minutes ago, terracingtam said: And your non answer would be to what? Bring in "professional stewards" from a Dundee company spending money the Club can ill afford? Just ignore the stewards and watch the team play out of trouble. I think it was the aggressive "Put up or shut up" quote that got me into this. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbsouth 662 Report post Posted December 1, 2019 What a wonderful strike from Ross. Also great to see Marc back on form 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theSilverFox 508 Report post Posted December 1, 2019 9 hours ago, peternapper said: Have sent an e-mail to David McGregor outlining the stewarding shortcomings so will see if I get a reply. Did suggest if they really wanted to monitor the crowd get them to sit facing the crowd on a stool to keep them out of the way. I complained a few years ago, got a reply from the the chairman at the time. Basically telling me what he thought I wanted to hear then passed me to the head of security who was an officious patronising little **** 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Loonytoons 1,160 Report post Posted December 2, 2019 2 hours ago, theSilverFox said: I complained a few years ago, got a reply from the the chairman at the time. Basically telling me what he thought I wanted to hear then passed me to the head of security who was an officious patronising little **** The current chairman is a pretty decent guy, I know him relatively well. He runs a very successful business and it would be hoped that he knows how much bad PR can affect perceptions of the club. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
loon74 239 Report post Posted December 2, 2019 Not sure how it works at our level, are stewards unpaid volunteers or paid employees, would think there would have to be some system of vetting & licensing like doormen at clubs etc to validate their suitability to control crowds properly. Bigger clubs seem to use a company/agency to supply stewards of suitable standard which clears the club of some liability if things go wrong.They are paid not volunteers Some are even claiming unemployment allowance 1 is even unfit too work ( bull shit ) 1 is suspended from his current job at the NHS 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
loon74 239 Report post Posted December 2, 2019 Let's get realistic. The Club must have stewards to comply with the rules. The current stewards are those who have come forward to do this. They may not be to every ones taste but until the experts in the crowd and on P&B volunteer, we have what we have. Put up or shut up But it’s not a volunteer position ? They get paid 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbsouth 662 Report post Posted December 2, 2019 5 hours ago, loon74 said: But it’s not a volunteer position ? They get paid The reply will be interesting....🤣 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peternapper 610 Report post Posted December 2, 2019 Seems to be a few local grudges on the go but have no personal knowledge of any of the parties involved but annoying paying punters for no good reason is not a good plan. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peternapper 610 Report post Posted December 2, 2019 Have had a reply from the safety officer who although not at Saturdays game has ask for details & will check cctv so seems a reasonable response. Will see what happens. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
loon74 239 Report post Posted December 2, 2019 Have had a reply from the safety officer who although not at Saturdays game has ask for details & will check cctv so seems a reasonable response. Will see what happens.Maybe he will admit they had no kids too pick on and were board and stopped for a chat so they could annoy you and get a reaction ! It will be bullshit be prepared 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mo83 720 Report post Posted December 2, 2019 Maybe he will admit they had no kids too pick on and were board and stopped for a chat so they could annoy you and get a reaction ! It will be bullshit be prepared What happened with Peter Reid fans on Saturday? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peternapper 610 Report post Posted December 3, 2019 11 hours ago, loon74 said: Maybe he will admit they had no kids too pick on and were board and stopped for a chat so they could annoy you and get a reaction ! It will be bullshit be prepared Had a few e-mails from Iain Reid the safety officer yesterday but it would be unfair to make them public on here. He has said he will check the cctv from Saturday & if need be have words with the stewards involved, seems a genuine enough guy, will see if there is any more word about it. I did mention that there were no Forfar fans involved young or old, the whole thing was something or nothing which could have easily been avoided with some common sense & less confrontational attitude from one of them. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites