QOSQOS Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 2 hours ago, The-coo-shed said: For folk that were there, how was Osman?Does he merit a start? It's nice to have someone with a bit of height in the middle with him on I thought he did well, protected the back 4 and when he got the ball he generally found a Queens player. Lyons and Pybus both did sterling shifts, tackling, harrying and pressing, but when they did get the ball they often gave it away again. If Osman is still to get fitter, he could be really useful in the middle of the park. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girth Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Goes to show how shit this league is as we’re somehow still in 4th place. Bizarre. Sounds like Queens played some decent stuff. Although I can’t bring myself to watch the highlights. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjc-1988 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 I thought he did well, protected the back 4 and when he got the ball he generally found a Queens player. Lyons and Pybus both did sterling shifts, tackling, harrying and pressing, but when they did get the ball they often gave it away again. If Osman is still to get fitter, he could be really useful in the middle of the park.Agree with that. Osman was very solid yesterday and as you say he generally keeps the ball at all costs. I find Pybus a frustrating player - his work rate is excellent and he continually threatens to be a star turn but often picks the wrong option at the crucial time. He has the attributes and there is a player in there but his careless distribution is holding him back.Lyons has upped his game and did a really good job yesterday. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 The ball gets stuck under Dobbie's feet regularly, are you questioning his technical ability? The pitch is terrible. Didn't seem to hold him back too much last season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluenortherner Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Goes to show how shit this league is as we’re somehow still in 4th place. Bizarre. Sounds like Queens played some decent stuff. Although I can’t bring myself to watch the highlights. Well worth watching the highlights for the 3 goals alone! [emoji14] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Didn't seem to hold him back too much last season. That doesn't effect the point I made tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 37 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said: 1 hour ago, Mr X said: Didn't seem to hold him back too much last season. That doesn't effect the point I made tbh. Well, kinda does. Your claiming we cant play football on the pitch because its so bad and even Dobbie is affected, despite the fact that he scored plenty of goals on it last season, we've played some passing football on it at times and the opposition has regularly done so, and won. Im not sure you have much of a point other than "pitch bad" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Well, kinda does. Your claiming we cant play football on the pitch because its so bad and even Dobbie is affected, despite the fact that he scored plenty of goals on it last season, we've played some passing football on it at times and the opposition has regularly done so, and won. Im not sure you have much of a point other than "pitch bad"- the pitch is rubbish.- the ball regularly gets stuck in Dobbie's feet. Neither of those statements are factually inaccurate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 - the pitch is rubbish.- the ball regularly gets stuck in Dobbie's feet. Neither of those statements are factually inaccurate. True. However, you started this by suggesting the pitch is the reason we don't play much football at home. There's no evidence to back that up, even your statement about Dobbie. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmy_cammy Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 The pitch is shit, that’s a given. I don’t think it had any bearing on the Queens Park result though. And I don’t think it is that much of a contributory factor in why we resort to hoofball.When teams put our defenders under pressure they resort to shelling it forward. This was a big factor last week as neither Mercer or Brownlie are hugely comfortable on the ball. Lyon was in an unfamiliar position and Holt is so one footed it is unbelievable. Queens Park did a great job of pressing us and it was panic stations at the back.Our midfield was equally to blame last week with no-one showing for a pass thus forcing our defence to go long.I wasn’t in Dundee yesterday but I’d imagine having a more familiar back 4, and having Osman and El Bakhtaoui in the side aided our style of play more than the surface it was played on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeredbook Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 10 minutes ago, palmy_cammy said: The pitch is shit, that’s a given. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 True. However, you started this by suggesting the pitch is the reason we don't play much football at home. There's no evidence to back that up, even your statement about Dobbie. I actually didn't suggest anything. I queried if the pitch played a part. And the only reason I mentioned Dobbie was because the technical ability of the players was questioned by Fae_the_briggs and I pointed out that even Dobbie struggles to control the ball at times on it (and his technical ability is obviously excellent). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidofthesouth Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Our pitch is absolutely terrible and has a detrimental effect on every game thats played on it. It should be ripped up as soon as we can afford to do it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRubberFist Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 12 hours ago, Tap in 94 said: Some colourful language from the punters in the derry there Video should carry a viewer discretion warning... Magnificent effort and a credit to all participants - top swearing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeredbook Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 36 minutes ago, sidofthesouth said: Our pitch is absolutely terrible and has a detrimental effect on every game thats played on it. It should be ripped up as soon as we can afford to do it. Spot on . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 8 hours ago, 19QOS19 said: . We are capable of playing good football, sadly our pitch doesn't encourage it so you do wonder if that's partly why we hoof it so much at home. 2 hours ago, 19QOS19 said: I actually didn't suggest anything. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 That's a query 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fae_the_'briggs Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 7 hours ago, 19QOS19 said: So you agree the pitch is indeed bad I never said anywhere that I think the pitch is good, it doesn't necessarily mean that the pitch is to blame for our players fondness hoofing the ball forward which your post inferred (as I read it.) Our back line and some midfielders are not comfortable on the ball under pressure so elect to get rid of it the easiest way they can which is to lump it away. Some players also seem to have trouble controlling the ball in less than three touches, not only on our pitch, compared to players of other teams who take good early control, even on our pitch, that is what I would call lack of some technical ability. In all the poor games and bad results we've suffered at home the pitch has probably had very little influence or it's maybe that some opposition teams adapt to it better. Also using the pitch as an excuse for lumping the ball forward would have more credibility if we didn't also do it on better quality plastic and grass pitches. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 That's a query I do wonder if you're at it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherEdinburghDoonhamer Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 What's with all this stuff about our pitch? Lets just enjoy the moment. Fantastic performance yesterday and we really should have been out of sight, then suddenly our world(us fans who were there) collapsed around us. And then less than a minute later from despair to sheer ecstasy. I'm sure we have had a lot of late winners in my 50 odd years but I'm not sure I can recall such a dramatic late ending, especially against a 'so called big team'. And now we have a wee bit of breathing space, lets hope that we can keep up the good work and beat the struggling Harry Wraggs. I thought we had no failures yesterday and it was great to see El Bakh, Lee and Abdul back and putting in great performances. Not watched the highlights yet, that comes next, but I thought that had to be a goal when Robbie seemed to be doing a bit of juggling. Come on the super Queens. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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