Prince Andrew BBC

[Antlion]

5 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

Yes, they're born princes or princesses. "The Prince of Wales" is a title traditionally bestowed by the monarch  on the eldest son and heir, once they come of age. It isn't automatic though so as and when Charlie-boy takes over the wheel, he may or may not upgrade William to Prince of the Valleys.

Cheers - so they’re princess and princesses but only “of” places later? Bizarre. I assume he did f**k all specifically for Wales either before or after. The whole random “tradition” of giving these c***s titles of places they have nothing to do with is as bizarre as the various military ranks and medals their army-fetishist mother showers them with. I did read that most of the medals we see them dripping with were actually invented by Lizzie purely to be given to them. An absolute platoon of c***s, these chancers.

[welshbairn]

24 minutes ago, Antlion said:

Cheers - so they’re princess and princesses but only “of” places later? Bizarre. I assume he did f**k all specifically for Wales either before or after. The whole random “tradition” of giving these c***s titles of places they have nothing to do with is as bizarre as the various military ranks and medals their army-fetishist mother showers them with. I did read that most of the medals we see them dripping with were actually invented by Lizzie purely to be given to them. An absolute platoon of c***s, these chancers.

They're like sticky badges thrown in with a McDonalds Happy Meal though, who gives a f**k. Apart from Andy with his teddy bears that is..

[Bairnardo]

The only thing more ridiculous than the idea of "royalty" is surely the idea that "Wales" can ever mean anything.

[GordonD]

I think he was always Prince of Wales but they still had the investiture to make it 'official'. Just as the Queen became Queen as soon as her father died but they still had the Coronation the following year.

[tamthebam]

I think of welshbairn as the Prince of Wales myself

[Shotgun]

4 hours ago, GordonD said:

I think he was always Prince of Wales but they still had the investiture to make it 'official'. Just as the Queen became Queen as soon as her father died but they still had the Coronation the following year.

I did what I should've done before posting and looked it up.

You're correct but with the caveat that the Prince of Wales has to be the heir apparent. Charlie was born in 1948 but wasn't eligible until 1952 when he became the heir after his Ma got promoted. He received the title in 1958 and then waited another 11 years before being invested in 1969. The title isn't inherited but is granted at the will and pleasure of the monarch.

[IrishBhoy]

Noticed yesterday that St Andrews Golf Club/The R&A had decided to revoke Prince Andrews honorary membership, I presume on the back of these recent allegations and potential court case that he faces. It got me thinking as to the reasons Andrew would even be offered an honorary membership in the first place; what qualities or personal achievements does he posses that qualifies him for it? Obviously I’m aware that just being a member of the Royal family allows him to get in to these positions, and his contacts and network would be advantageous to the R&A having him as a member, but is it not just such a sham of a position this country has gotten itself into where unelected members with a specific bloodline get hoisted in to positions in which they have absolutely no right to be in.

That’s probably the thin end of the wedge tbh, and pretty harmless in the grand scheme of things, but it’s not just memberships of golf clubs this happens with. The Royals are honorary chairmen, presidents, ambassadors etc. in many different sectors, and are there because they were lucky enough to be farted out of someone who someone else decided was ‘Royal’ about 1000 years ago. In 100 years time I hope the people of Britain are looking back and laughing at how we used to be ruled by a million(billion?)aire family, that lived in big fancy houses, wore hats made of gold and diamonds and sat on chairs worth many multiples of an average persons annual wage. 

[Jacksgranda]

6 hours ago, Bairnardo said:

The only thing more ridiculous than the idea of "royalty" is surely the idea that "Wales" can ever mean anything.

Other than a unit of measurement.

[Jacksgranda]

1 hour ago, IrishBhoy said:

Noticed yesterday that St Andrews Golf Club/The R&A had decided to revoke Prince Andrews honorary membership,

I think he resigned rather than the R&A sacking him.

[RH33]

1 hour ago, Jacksgranda said:

I think he resigned rather than the R&A sacking him.

If you'd just sign this resignation we've written......

[IrishBhoy]

2 hours ago, Jacksgranda said:

I think he resigned rather than the R&A sacking him.

Well that reflects even worse on the R&A. I wonder what other roles he will be getting punted/resigning from in the coming weeks now that his Royal titles have been stripped of him.
 

The R&A are hardly well known for their diversity and inclusiveness. I’m sure a few of the old dinosaurs you see standing in the background at The Open with their R&A blazers on have a similarly chequered past. Out of interest, what exactly qualifies you to become a member? I know it’s invitation only which suggests that you get invited when you throw enough money their way, but surely there must be some criteria that needs to be met with regards to having an actual understanding of the game of golf. 

[hk blues]

45 minutes ago, IrishBhoy said:

..an actual understanding of the game of golf. 

You hit a wee white ball with a big stick into a hole in a grassy patch.  When do I get my membership card? 

[IrishBhoy]

5 minutes ago, hk blues said:

You hit a wee white ball with a big stick into a hole in a grassy patch.  When do I get my membership card? 

If your over the age of 70 and don’t like the idea of women becoming members of historic Scottish golf clubs then your half way there. 

[hk blues]

5 minutes ago, IrishBhoy said:

If your over the age of 70 and don’t like the idea of women becoming members of historic Scottish golf clubs then your half way there. 

Damn.

 

 

 

I'm only 57.

[Delicate Flower]

6 hours ago, IrishBhoy said:

Noticed yesterday that St Andrews Golf Club/The R&A had decided to revoke Prince Andrews honorary membership, I presume on the back of these recent allegations and potential court case that he faces. It got me thinking as to the reasons Andrew would even be offered an honorary membership in the first place; what qualities or personal achievements does he posses that qualifies him for it? Obviously I’m aware that just being a member of the Royal family allows him to get in to these positions, and his contacts and network would be advantageous to the R&A having him as a member, but is it not just such a sham of a position this country has gotten itself into where unelected members with a specific bloodline get hoisted in to positions in which they have absolutely no right to be in.

That’s probably the thin end of the wedge tbh, and pretty harmless in the grand scheme of things, but it’s not just memberships of golf clubs this happens with. The Royals are honorary chairmen, presidents, ambassadors etc. in many different sectors, and are there because they were lucky enough to be farted out of someone who someone else decided was ‘Royal’ about 1000 years ago. In 100 years time I hope the people of Britain are looking back and laughing at how we used to be ruled by a million(billion?)aire family, that lived in big fancy houses, wore hats made of gold and diamonds and sat on chairs worth many multiples of an average persons annual wage. 

The baldy khunt William, who shoots birds, is the patron of the British Trust for Ornithology. Go figure.

[GordonD]

6 hours ago, Shotgun said:

I did what I should've done before posting and looked it up.

You're correct but with the caveat that the Prince of Wales has to be the heir apparent. Charlie was born in 1948 but wasn't eligible until 1952 when he became the heir after his Ma got promoted. He received the title in 1958 and then waited another 11 years before being invested in 1969. The title isn't inherited but is granted at the will and pleasure of the monarch.

Good point about him not becoming PoW until 1952.

I watched the investiture - had no choice; the whole school was shunted into the gym to watch it on the big TV. The only other time they did that was for the launch of the QE2.

[NUMBER 7]

1 hour ago, GordonD said:

Good point about him not becoming PoW until 1952.

I watched the investiture - had no choice; the whole school was shunted into the gym to watch it on the big TV. The only other time they did that was for the launch of the QE2.

Similar to our school, can’t remember Big Ears investiture, think that was during summer holidays in our area, but remember 600 kids getting huddled into a hall to see QE2 launch and First man on the moon, on a 24” Black and White TV, the picture was so grainy you couldn’t make feck all out.

[Monkey Tennis]

2 hours ago, NUMBER 7 said:

Similar to our school, can’t remember Big Ears investiture, think that was during summer holidays in our area, but remember 600 kids getting huddled into a hall to see QE2 launch and First man on the moon, on a 24” Black and White TV, the picture was so grainy you couldn’t make feck all out.

Was the first man on the moon not in the middle of the night our time, and also during the summer holidays?

[Antlion]

4 hours ago, GordonD said:

Good point about him not becoming PoW until 1952.

I watched the investiture - had no choice; the whole school was shunted into the gym to watch it on the big TV. The only other time they did that was for the launch of the QE2.

So presumably the investiture didn’t make Charlie anything he wasn’t already - it was just a piece of royalist propaganda, alongside the various other bits of Ruritanian shite that they press on us because No OnE DoES PoMp LiKe Us BrItS.

I have to say, a lot of the royal theatre they try and convince us is much historical, so pomp, looks as tacky as f**k. All of the silly costumes, gilt, red and white fluffy ermine - it might have impressed folk when the majority were dressed in dull grey smocks and flat caps, but now it all looks like part of the set of a low-budget porn parody of English history (but with ugly people).

[GordonD]

1 hour ago, Monkey Tennis said:

Was the first man on the moon not in the middle of the night our time, and also during the summer holidays?

Yes to both.