Prince Andrew BBC

[Monkey Tennis]

5 minutes ago, GordonD said:

I'm no Royalist but bear in mind that film was shot in 1933 or 34, before anybody knew what Hitler was like. Remember the Olympics took place in Berlin in 1936 so nobody thought at that time there was anything dodgy about his regime. And there was this in 1938:

 

Yes, no indications whatever what Hitler or his regime might be like.  He should really have written a book in the 20s to give some clues as to his world view on such themes as race.

It would have been helpful too, if his government had immediately taken dodgy steps on assuming power.

[Bert Raccoon]

10 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said:

Yes, no indications whatever what Hitler or his regime might be like.  He should really have written a book in the 20s to give some clues as to his world view on such themes as race.

It would have been helpful too, if his government had immediately taken dodgy steps on assuming power.

You make him sound so sinister.

[Sergeant Wilson]

5 minutes ago, Bert Raccoon said:

You make him sound so sinister.

Nobody ever mentions the good stuff.

[BillyAnchor]

1 hour ago, Bert Raccoon said:

You make him sound so sinister.

Publish a book about taking over the world and everyone's on your case.

[lichtgilphead]

1 hour ago, GordonD said:

I'm no Royalist but bear in mind that film was shot in 1933 or 34, before anybody knew what Hitler was like. Remember the Olympics took place in Berlin in 1936 so nobody thought at that time there was anything dodgy about his regime. And there was this in 1938:

 

The Germans played Scotland at Ibrox in 1936. The Scottish team were asked to perform the nazi salute during the anthems, but refused.

The Germans lined up opposite the main stand and performed the salute to "loud applause", turned and saluted the opposite side, and again repeated the salute during both national anthems. 

2 people were arrested at halftime for an anti nazi protest.

Obviously, nowadays, nazi salutes are more common in the Ibrox stands than on the pitch.

[Shotgun]

2 hours ago, GordonD said:

I'm no Royalist but bear in mind that film was shot in 1933 or 34, before anybody knew what Hitler was like.

Lots of British people knew exactly what Hitler was like by then and many, including some members of the Royal Family were all in favour of it. Uncle Edward in particular, was a big fan. Wee Liz may not have understood the significance of the salute but her mother joining in behind her, certainly did. That's one of the reasons why Hitler mistakenly assumed the British Establishment would be amenable to an alliance once he'd done the dirty work of taking over Europe.

 

Edited July 31, 2020 by Shotgun

[Stellaboz]

If it was up to Uncle Edward, the UK would be best mates with the Nazis. Sometimes wonder if the roles have reversed in modern days.

[Aim Here]

2 hours ago, GordonD said:

I'm no Royalist but bear in mind that film was shot in 1933 or 34, before anybody knew what Hitler was like. Remember the Olympics took place in Berlin in 1936 so nobody thought at that time there was anything dodgy about his regime. And there was this in 1938:

 

In 1938, political parties had been abolished in Germany, the Night of the Long Knives political purge was no longer news, but actual history, the Nuremberg Laws had been introduced to segregate and dehumanize the Jewish population of Germany, concentration camps had been around for five years, Austria had been annexed, and Germany was currently helping Francos fascist military takeover of Spain, not only through normal warfare, but by doing the atrocious dirty work of bombing civilian towns, such as, famously, Guernica. Even a horrendous, racist, reactionary old turd like Winston Churchill was appalled. The 1936 Olympics were famous back then because of the various controversies about Nazi racism and treatment of Jews, and, far from 'nobody' thinking there was anything dodgy about this regime, there was considerable public controversy, and (admittedly mostly unsuccessful) calls for a boycott.

Those people who accepted the Nazi Party at this time weren't innocently giving an unknown quantity the benefit of the doubt, they were knowingly dealing with an atrocious, violent, thuggish regime.

And of course, Edward VIII, who was teaching Queen Liz the Nazi salute back in 1933/34, was far from innocent himself - after the war, Nazi files were dug up where agents reported him advocating for heavy bombing of the British people so that the government would sue for peace. It would have been fun to read about the c**t being executed for treason in the history books, but they shipped him off to the Bahamas  just in time. Oh well...

 

Edited July 31, 2020 by Aim Here

[Shotgun]

I did a quick search re the video in order to check the year it was taken. First thing to come up was the BBC report which was more concerned with the invasion of the Royal Family's privacy than the significance of the video itself. If this story had come out in 2020, we'd no doubt be hearing about leftists trying to suppress Prince Edward's freedom of speech, worse than Nazis, so much for the tolerant left etc.

[Ziggy]

3 hours ago, Bert Raccoon said:

You make him sound so sinister.

People are so quick to judge these days.

[GordonD]

Okay, so people did have an idea what Hitler was up to, but clearly it wasn't thought bad enough to stop England playing them in 1938. A few months later saw Chamberlain waving his infamous piece of paper so he seemed to believe that the man could be reasoned with.

[Theroadlesstravelled]

They ignored what was going on just like they ignore what's happening in China today.

 

[Sergeant Wilson]

2 hours ago, Aim Here said:

In 1938, political parties had been abolished in Germany, the Night of the Long Knives political purge was no longer news, but actual history, the Nuremberg Laws had been introduced to segregate and dehumanize the Jewish population of Germany, concentration camps had been around for five years, Austria had been annexed, and Germany was currently helping Francos fascist military takeover of Spain, not only through normal warfare, but by doing the atrocious dirty work of bombing civilian towns, such as, famously, Guernica. Even a horrendous, racist, reactionary old turd like Winston Churchill was appalled. The 1936 Olympics were famous back then because of the various controversies about Nazi racism and treatment of Jews, and, far from 'nobody' thinking there was anything dodgy about this regime, there was considerable public controversy, and (admittedly mostly unsuccessful) calls for a boycott.

Those people who accepted the Nazi Party at this time weren't innocently giving an unknown quantity the benefit of the doubt, they were knowingly dealing with an atrocious, violent, thuggish regime.

And of course, Edward VIII, who was teaching Queen Liz the Nazi salute back in 1933/34, was far from innocent himself - after the war, Nazi files were dug up where agents reported him advocating for heavy bombing of the British people so that the government would sue for peace. It would have been fun to read about the c**t being executed for treason in the history books, but they shipped him off to the Bahamas  just in time. Oh well...

 

Aye, but it wasn't on the telly.

[Jacksgranda]

3 hours ago, Shotgun said:

Lots of British people knew exactly what Hitler was like by then and many, including some members of the Royal Family were all in favour of it. Uncle Edward in particular, was a big fan. Wee Liz may not have understood the significance of the salute but her mother joining in behind her, certainly did. That's one of the reasons why Hitler mistakenly assumed the British Establishment would be amenable to an alliance once he'd done the dirty work of taking over Europe.

 

So it was a cunning plan by the Establishment.

[MONKMAN]

Surely just not being a nonce, is a basic requirement that could be expected.

[throbber]

I’m going to try the “superhuman saints” line the next time I get caught with an escort.

[Blootoon87]

Absolutely flabbergasted at religion sticking up for a paedo.

[Stellaboz]

I didn't realise how difficult it was for most people to not be a paedo. 

[Gordon EF]

I'm not a pedo. I assume my sainthood is in the post?

[DA Baracus]

On 31/07/2020 at 17:12, Theroadlesstravelled said:

They ignored what was going on just like they ignore what's happening in China today.

 

"Never again"

"Lest we forget"