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Corbyn and the IRA


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4 minutes ago, sureiknow said:

The thing there is he didn't. 

He only met with the Republican Terrorists and not also with the Loyalist Terrorists. 

Bit like when he meets with Islamic Terror groups and not the people they attack and murder.

And as I have said before he laid a Wreath on the Graves of Terrorists who have killed Jews and has not laid a Wreath on the Graves of the murdered Jews.

And we can add a lot more including standing for a minutes silence to honour the  Loughgall IRA dead.

He probably saw himself falling naturally on one of those sides.

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3 minutes ago, Tony Ferrino said:

He probably saw himself falling naturally on one of those sides.

Which brings us neatly back to the beginning of the thread and why a lot of people will not be voting for his party this time around. If you are a socialist then stick to supporting fellow socialists rather than a bunch of balaclava wearing thugs with a political agenda that was straight out of the 17th century.

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8 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

Leaning towards the underdog is clearly a dangerous thing to do in politics

Simpering, evidence free drivel. 

The PIRA, INLA, UVF, UDA or any other group of armed thugs were not the "underdog" in this conflict. 

The underdog were the ordinary people bombed in chip shops, gunned down in betting shops, forced to drive bombs towards army barracks, or who lost loved ones in drive by by little more than street gangs with quasi political justifications. 

 

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Simpering, evidence free drivel. 
The PIRA, INLA, UVF, UDA or any other group of armed thugs were not the "underdog" in this conflict. 
The underdog were the ordinary people bombed in chip shops, gunned down in betting shops, forced to drive bombs towards army barracks, or who lost loved ones in drive by by little more than street gangs with quasi political justifications. 
 
The Catholic community in northern Ireland was quite clearly the underdog. To deny this simple statement is frankly ludicrous.

Corbyn was an MP who saw the government and establishment lean heavily on one side and he rightly stood up for the other side. Of course he wasn't engaging in official negotiations - but he was trying to take small steps towards that.

He's never been a proponent of violence in any way but he was trying to bring the political wing of the republican into the conversation in a legitimate manner. Arguably this was successful, although it took far too long.

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10 minutes ago, Suspect Device said:

I'll not be voting labour but it has nothing to do with Corbyn's alleged 'support' for terrorism.

 

Edit: or his alleged anti Semitism.

If only he supported semitism and was anti terrorist.

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56 minutes ago, sureiknow said:

The thing there is he didn't. 

He only met with the Republican Terrorists and not also with the Loyalist Terrorists. 

Bit like when he meets with Islamic Terror groups and not the people they attack and murder.

And as I have said before he laid a Wreath on the Graves of Terrorists who have killed Jews and has not laid a Wreath on the Graves of the murdered Jews.

And we can add a lot more including standing for a minutes silence to honour the  Loughgall IRA dead.

Because if history has taught us anything, it's that killing Jews is worse than killing anybody else.

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1 minute ago, pandarilla said:

The Catholic community in northern Ireland was quite clearly the underdog. To deny this simple statement is frankly ludicrous.

The PIRA did not represent the "Catholic community". 

Your point is a strawman.


 

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Corbyn was an MP who saw the government and establishment lean heavily on one side and he rightly stood up for the other side

Where is your documented evidence he routinely called for an end to violence and for the problmes to be resolved democratically back in the 80s? His statements in parliament to this effect should be pretty volumous. 
 

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He's never been a proponent of violence in any way but he was trying to bring the political wing of the republican into the conversation in a legitimate manner

Seems to me he simply responded to Republican violent attacks by repeating their demands. 

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What is your documentary evidence from the 1980s for your suppositions. 

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Just now, dorlomin said:

Perhaps you need to read better history books and stop dredging up neonazi talking points. 

Yep, that's what it is.

If you don't hold up the lives of jewish people with greater importance than the lives of anybody else, it's "neo nazism".

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Seems to me he simply responded to Republican violent attacks by repeating their demands. 

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What is your documentary evidence from the 1980s for your suppositions. 

Just so you know, repeatedly calling for 'documented evidence' makes you look like a fanny. Folk are discussing issue, and have differing opinions. Some folk might provide sources, but try not to be a fanny about it.

 

Would you agree that you have a tendency to come down on the centre-right on most issues? It certainly appears that way. Corbyn was trying to talk to the individuals that represented the politics of the republican movement. He was trying to get people talking, which could only help bring about peace.

 

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Evidence is for fannies.
Made up opinions are true, if they agree with what you want to believe. 
On a politics thread on a football forum anyone who demands evidence is invariably a fanny.

I have no issues with posters providing evidence, or referencing sources.

I notice you completely avoided my question.
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56 minutes ago, Suspect Device said:

I'll not be voting labour but it has nothing to do with Corbyn's alleged 'support' for terrorism.

 

Edit: or his alleged anti Semitism.

 

Greenie for your judicious use of the word "Alleged" there.

Very often a wise move on some of these threads.

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